(01-09-2019 05:10 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  I think both sides are totally f-ed up.

It's not a wall that we need, it's a reasonable and logical comprehensive immigration policy. The wall without such a policy is worthless. Such a policy without the wall is workable.

Problem is that the democrats see a wave of immigrant instant citizens as instant democrat voters. And so do republicans.

Well one has to come first. Build the wall, end the influx of illegals and work on reform to process the ones here and make the new arrivals at port of entries easier to manage.

If dems and republicans view something as big as illegal immigrants the say way - as likely dem voters, then that should be all the justification needed to act now.