(07-02-2018 11:00 AM)WKUYG Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:21 AM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 10:00 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 09:56 AM)Fish Wrote:  

(07-02-2018 09:50 AM)WKUFan518 Wrote:  Not necessarily we are paying our current football coach almost double what Brohm made his first couple of seasons and he has done nothing so far.....We are all in still in same boat regardless of who has more money, Still any one of us will be poached by a "P5' school regardless where your budgets stands in CUSA...

One could argue if WKU had a larger budget, they would have never lost Brohm in the first place. Of course there are exceptions to everything, but typically speaking, the better performing coaches get paid more monies.

So you are saying at FIU if you had Brohm and a P5 school came along after he won 2 CUSA titles, you would be able to pay enough to keep him at FIU? I don't think it matters how much more money FIU has you would still lose him to a P5 school.....No way any of us can match a P5 school, I don't care if you are one of the top CUSA schools in terms of budget.....

Money can't save any of us from losing coaches to the middle to better programs in the P5, but it can insulate us from the lower programs. Look at Houston. They pay their coach very well, and yes they lose their coaches to the P5s too, but they lost their last two coaches to Texas and Texas A&M. The Kansas and Iowa State's of the Big 12 were not able to snatch them, and that has allowed Houston to become a major player among the G5, and regularly compete with many P5 programs. The programs in C-USA that can pay more will be able to follow a similar strategy going forward. So yes, money does matter, and if the gap continues to grow, some in C-USA could find their programs at a competitive disadvantage.

There is not one school in CUSA that can hold on to a football coach if a SEC school wants him. Not unless that school is facing major probation or something like that.

If a Miss or KY or Vandy offers $2 million and UNT offers 2.2million....SEC wins out. If they offers 2.5 million and UNT offers 2.7 million. SEC wins out

If he stays at UNT he knows he cant get to that 5 million a year job and have a chance at a national championship. You can do both at the lowest rung of the SEC, Big 10, Big12, Pac 12, ACC

You are dreaming if you think UNT can compete with the lowest of the lowest in a P5 conference. What's going to end up happening is something like ULL went through..

thinking you have a winner and over paying. Not only over paying but paying more than UNT can afford to buyout. That is more likely than keeping up with the lowest of the P5

UNT's coach is gone the very first time a SEC school wants him. The problem is he really hasn't won anything. Other than win a weak western of the CUSA.

Other than that what has that money bought UNT?

Kentucky is a football coaching graveyard. Every coach they've had this century has had a losing record. Guy Morriss is the only Kentucky coach that has been hired away for another job, and that was in 2002. The power house SEC programs couldn't even fend off Baylor from hiring him away. By the way, North Texas beat the 2003 Morriss Baylor team.

Vandy is a dead end SEC job too. Only James Franklin has been able to escape that steaming pile. Like Kentucky, no Vandy coach has had a wining record at that school this century, including Franklin. So, Yes I believe C-USA teams that invest in their coaching can certainly keep their coaches from ruining their careers by taking lower P5 Jobs.

ULL did overpay for Hud, but no bigger programs came along and hired him away..... ULL did a few things that placed them in a bad spot. Hud got them in trouble with the NCAA (academic fraud and payments to players), and they were forced to vacate wins. ULL was stupid to expand their stadium to 41,000. I think they averaged about 15,000 last season.

This isn't about North Texas, but I believe our AD understands the finances of the UNT program. I think we are spending the extra money wisely. I've posted a few threads regarding how UNT is investing our resources (turf, track/soccer stadium, indoor practice facility,...). You can go look those up if you feel like it.

Look, this is about how the better funded programs, not exclusively North Texas, will be better positioned to retain their coaches. You can believe differently if you choose, but Houston has proven more money, to some degree, can protect a program from being raided by lower P5 programs.