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I get your point but my thoughts to this scenario would be that, Luke at the end of Jedi was pretty darn happy that even he could turn his dad, Darth Vader back from the clutches of The Emperor and the fact his dad told him so was probably a very big emotional moment for him. Then, say he takes on training his sister and best friend's son in the ways of the Jedi only to have Kylo go dark on him. Mentally I could see him thinking that he performed one of toughest turn-arounds ever yet when being basically entrusted to return the Jedi back to prominence and then losing his sister's son to the dark side that that would be one hell of an emotional weight to be held under. I could see him questioning a lot with the Jedi order and its teaching and what not. In other words if he was supposed to be the light for future Jedi and with his family history that his nephew turned would be one serious blow to his mental state. That said, I have the same problem along some lines of thought with Kylo turning dark. I mean, its not like his parents wouldn't tell him what happened and how it turned out for his uncle and its not like Luke wouldn't tell him more or less the same thing. Then, if he believes Darth Vader was so bad ass and aspires to be the heir apparent to him then how would he reconcile his turn at the very end to the good side of the force? Now I'll admit that I don't know much about his upbringing and what kind of story in his personal history would have set him down that path.

Snoke's handling was BS though, I will give you that. He can't come off that bad ass and First Order forward thinking as well as Jedi/Sith forward thinking and not get built up more into something. I will say I did like Kylo using his thoughts about the events against him in that he was seeing what was going on between Kylo and Rey and Kylo was turning that sabre in the same manner into him. IMO, my main beef is he was to underdeveloped in the end game of it all.

Rey's lineage was BS as well. I mean, I could argue Anakin ( and probably likely other Jedi) could have been started from scratch so to speak but to show that glimpse/flashback and it to lead to something so empty of being interesting that to me was a major blow to what could have been.

Fin's character could have been a lot more interesting than he actually was too. I mean, a Storm Trooper defecting and all that could entail from the inside scoop like he did offer a few times to other matters just could have been more significant.

My brother and I both felt that the whole casino planet thing felt tacked on and didn't really fit into the movie as a whole. I mean the whole talk to Maz(?), find Codebreaker, but its that guy and not the other guy... just felt way to convoluted and out of sync to the story.

I don't mind Benicio's character being a double dealer in terms of arms dealer for both sides and that is how he knows things, but if he was as good as he was supposed to be, why the hell was he stuck in that prison to begin with?

Leia's flying back to the ship.... yeah.... that was weird.

Klyo and Rey's ultra interesting psychic link/Force link thing was kind of cool as an ability but .... yeah...


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In regards to the prequel trilogy though...

I think that trilogy fell victim to two main things: 1) It had to end a certain way and 2) Lucas was way to into all the digital FX he could do versus making stuff simpler and more direct. IMO, Attack of the Clones was the only real good movie of those 3. The last entry of that one had to end a certain way and they had to show certain set up points but my problem with it was that it just seemed way to convoluted to get there. My only real beef with The Phantom Menace was that Darth Maul was SO BAD ASS but he went out like such a *****. I mean, really, Obi-wan manages to have an epiphany that he's a Jedi and jumps out of the pit and cuts him in half after a good long and otherwise intense and well done light sabre duel--come on now. Also, with all props to Padme' Amidalla, the pootietang wasn't that great to go all Dark Side for to save it.