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(03-23-2018 01:23 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 01:09 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 12:59 PM)ODUDrunkard13 Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 12:47 PM)Gilesfan Wrote:  

(03-23-2018 12:39 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  Granby Street revitalization downtown has been going on for at least 20 years. I lived there from '02 to '07 and just as much went up in that time and there was no LRT. The Fort Norfolk, retirement community, Trader Publishing building, all the new condos in Freemason, etc all went up before LRT was anything but a pipe dream. The city pumps millions and millions down there. No evidence LRT has played any role whatsoever. You think those people are buying the overpriced condos and apartments so they can take a train to Newtown Road? Where is the development between Newtown Road and Granby? I thought millennials were going to be falling all over themselves to live there. After LRT, they still had to pump millions into Waterside, and MacArthur to keep them open just like they are going to have ot pump millions into the Janaf/Military corridor, with or without LRT. Maybe they ought to serve their citizens and let the development happen according to the market?

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Yeah, this is nothing remotedly close to what has happened downtown recently like Wells Fargo, Main, Icon, etc.

And to the dude about Military Highway. It is one of the highest traffic routes in the area. Stuff is going to happen there, it already has started. (look at all the newer development).

If you want to know what things are going where, look at demographics, traffic, zoning, flood maps, etc.

Harbors Edge is building a new tower;
http://www.13newsnow.com/article/news/lo...-497725929

Cordish wants to build a tower downtown;
https://www.google.com/amp/pilotonline.c...8.amp.html

And Harvey Lindsay is studying adding a tower downtown;
http://www.virginiabusiness.com/news/art...in-norfolk

LRT isn't even mentioned in the 3 articles. What is mentioned is $32M out of the $40M in Waterside development was provided by the city itself. If the city is taking 80% of the risk, they could get a developer to redo Huntersville, Park Place, or Lambert's Point just as well. If the city is taking on 80% of the risk, you can have development anywhere.

You said there was no development. We showed you were wrong. Now the argument is, it's not citing the Tide as the reason. The fact is Norfolk has reinvigorated downtown to the point that we have seen a lot of development and it's inspired private investment of multiple apartment buildings, corporate towers, less vacancies on granby street and the building of the neon. Waterside and the tide are both a part of that rebirth and showing to be good investments for them at this time.

As for Lambert's Point and Park Place, they already have some development projects in the pipeline. Only reason for the city to spend money there is to speed that process up. I dont follow Huntersville much but the St Paul's project should have positive impacts there as well.

I said there was no development due to the Tide. I stand by that. There has been development where the city is otherwise throwing money around, which includes one end of the Tide, There has been no develppment where the city is not throwing money around, which includes the other 7 miles of the Tide. It is a shell game.

Imagine what Lambert's Point and Park Place could look like if the city threw $32M at it. It might even include a Waterfront football stadium.