(09-07-2017 12:44 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

Quote:Technically, state schools are public schools. They receive tax-payer funding.

Technically true but unlike public school, you have a choice of which college you want to attend and which classes you want to take. Not the case in High School.

Not necessarily true. In Tennessee you attend the school for your district by default. However, we have something called "optional schools" which allow students from other districts.

Further, there are actually 7 school systems in Shelby County:
1. Shelby County Schools
2. Arlington Schools
3. Bartlett Schools
4. Collierville Schools
5. Germantown Schools
6. Lakeland Schools
7. Millington Schools

Students inside Memphis city limits attend Shelby County Schools.

Districts 2-7 cover students in each of those municipalities.

Any student in an unincorporated area attends Shelby County Schools.


However, you do not HAVE to attend the school system covered by your district.
Certain specific schools are designated as Optional Schools. You can attend an optional school depending upon certain criteria.

Also, you can attend a school in any other district by paying $150 to that school systems.

Further, if you live outside Shelby County (like we do) you can attend any school in the various districts for a fee.

So, in certain areas of the country you do have the choice of which school your children attend.


The differentiation you make between high school and college, I think, does not change the fact that they are supported by tax dollars.

Can colleges willfully disregard discrimination laws because students choose to attend a specific school and specific classes?

Quote:As I stated, I've been preparing her for what she will face. And I'm incredibly proud of how she's faced her first challenge.

What exactly have you been preparing her to face? Partying and drugs? Questioning religion or God? Having to read the Koran? What exactly are you talking about?

Assaults on her belief system. I'm not talking about rational discussion of varying views, but malicious assaults.

People often have differing views and opinions, but not all people approach these differences rationally.

Quote:But let me ask you this: if college is about challenging the student's beliefs, should they challenge every belief? By challenging only conservative beliefs aren't they failing those students by not challenging their liberal beliefs?

Conservative beliefs are predominately taught at home because they are the most mundane. Family values, moral stories are taught to every child at home. Therefore, it's not until a high education comes into the picture that a young adult is ready to be challenged and think differently about the world they grew up in. I

I can't accept your explanation at face value. Liberal beliefs are taught at home as well. I suspect that liberal parents teach their children conservative values at home.

Of course, we see high-profile examples of my assertion when the media shares instances of parents allowing their 6 year old son to live life as if he were a girl.



I also disagree for a different reason. Our Founders thought religion and morality were to go hand-in-hand with education in order to maintain good government.

Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged.

This phrase was repeated by Founders, fed and state founding documents and others.

I happen to agree with them.

And I think we see evidence confirming their thoughts given what we're seeing today.

Quote:The rationalization for a liberal mindset in the university system is to challenge beliefs. But in practice they tend to challenge beliefs opposed to their own.

That is a generalization but not entirely untrue. What college tried to do is make student think about how the world has been and challenge them to see the world how it can be. Whereas conservative value systems by definition see the world as it used to be and long to go back to those times. Liberal beliefs by definition frees the human to look to the future and how it can be made better.

Quote:I reject the claim that college is intended to challenge beliefs. The rationale should be restated accurately.

You can reject it if you want to. As I said before, if you don't want your daughter to change, don't send her to college.

I think you are doing her a disservice however if you"preparing " her to be close minded to whatever is being taught there.

Why would I not want her to change? Who even implied that?

But change for change's sake is not necessarily good.

There is change that results in growth and conversely change that results in digression.

I believe you're generalizing closed-minded.

I don't know you but I'm willing to bet you're closed-minded when it comes to torturing other people.

We see examples in the news where members of ISIS torture, brutalize and even kill people.

If you were sitting in a college classroom and the professor discussed rationale behind that behavior in an attempt to justify it, would you be open minded? I sincerely doubt it.

There are times to be open-minded and then there are times not to be.

BTW, our nation is based on rule of law. Should I be open-minded about alternative possibilities? Personally, I don't think so. I think that abandoning the rule of law fundamentally changes what this nation is.

I understand there are many across the country who are involved in efforts to alter that. And I understand that line of thought is promoted in some state universities.

I do not, nor will I ever be open to abandoning our core founding principles. I hope to impress upon my daughter that she should not be open to that, either. But that will be her decision.