(06-29-2017 03:25 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 03:10 PM)QSECOFR Wrote:  

(06-29-2017 03:08 PM)Recluse1 Wrote:  As a whole, the lack of oversight in how this money is spent is frightening, rising tuition costs need to be addressed. As unpopular as such an idea would be. I think fairness needs to be put into place, but whenever a heavy handed approach is used by states or the federal government toward anything, it just seems like things get worse.

Tuition rates having been climbing very fast at ALL schools because of the student loan program which now carries more debt than all U.S. household credit card debt.

Get rid of the student loan program and tuition will drop like a rock.

I don't necessarily disagree with you personally, but I'm trying to see the other side of this...

Tuition would drop, yes. And so would the opportunities available to the lower middle class. Everyone doesn't want to go to trade school, community colleges rarely offer the kind of degree that leads to a well paying(but also, intellectually/emotionally satisfying job). Of course, nobody is guaranteed their own happiness in life, but we also need to weigh the reality of human nature. People aren't going to accept being forced into a permanent underclass gracefully.
Further, I'm not sure how true that argument is. How much federal and state money is wasted on things entirely unrelated to education?
Why not just dissolve college athletics entirely? Sure some rednecks who probably never attended college anyway might throw a tantrum, but in the end, what does it really change?

If these state institutions want to have the kind of autonomy we give private businesses, then let them give up their non-profit status altogether and pay a retroactive bill on all those years of endowments they enjoyed tax free. We can regard them as what they are anyway, for profit entities.
Of course, what academic capital they ever had would drop like a rock, but hey, what do they care so long as they got football, right?!



Ah, probably easier just to keep that status quo. Dark as that is...

You are forcing people into a permanent underclass by having them attend college, accumulate 60k in debt in order to get a job that has no chance of earning what is necessary to pay that debt off.