(03-09-2017 10:36 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 10:14 PM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  

(03-09-2017 09:11 PM)CrazyPaco Wrote:  Re: Syracuse. Other schools in the conference with both a consensus football national championship and an NCAA Tournament Championship, please raise your hand.

Yeah, that's completely crazy to be taking shots at Syracuse whenever they've won a football and a basketball national championship. Who else has done that in this league?

Even take Clemson and how great their football program has become. It's a great program, there's no doubt about it.

However, if you took a list of the greatest players Clemson has ever produced in FOOTBALL and compared it to Syracuse's all-time team, it's absolutely no contest. And that's in football!

Obviously, Clemson is much better right now and the Tigers have a wonderful tradition as well. I would never disrespect their proud history. However, to diminish Syracuse's history and tradition is just flat out absurd. It's just poorly informed and anyone who expresses that level of idiocy should not be taken seriously when expressing other views.

Actually, if you include Pre-NCAA Tournament Helms National Championships, there are three conference schools that have both: Syracuse, Pitt, and Notre Dame.

If you look for schools with Final Four appearances and National titles in football, you have Syracuse, Pitt, ND, Georgia Tech, and Florida State. In other words, none of the original members (unless you count Maryland).

Helms "championships" are completely bogus. They were awarded years after the fact by a bread company. NIT championships were often considered more prestigious than NCAA championships back in the 1950s and earlier but Helms never meant anything.