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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
(02-15-2017 09:48 PM)p23570 Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 09:26 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(02-15-2017 02:41 PM)Frank the Tank Wrote:  For the bolded, the fact is (at least in the Chicago area) is that a very large number of people DO eschew degrees from solid local schools for out-of-state P5 schools. It's not just a token amount, either - it's enough to have the state of Illinois be the #1 net exporter of college students in the entire country! Our local school districts will absolutely send more kids to Wisconsin, Indiana, Purdue, Iowa and Missouri than they will to Illinois State and the non-flagship in-state universities this year. We see the same thing with New Jersey and California students. Forget about the University of Michigan - look at the number of out-of-state kids from Illinois and New Jersey at places like Indiana or the number of California kids that are inundating Oregon, Colorado, Arizona and Arizona State instead of going to their non-flagship in-state public universities (or even eschewing their in-state flagship options). Maybe it's not their football programs specifically, but there IS something about being a "major brand name" school that can attract students in a way that others can't.

Frank what your describing is the way the kids from high income families see things. You for example were someone from a higher socioeconomic background with your father a professor. Names and prestige is everything in higher socioeconomic circles.

I once worked with a project manager who said that he went to Utah State. He then said proudly that Utah State has one of the most conservative political science departments in the country. His decision was based on perceived political environment than anything else.

Middle class kids who are not part of the well to do establishment view schools differently.

Conservative campus
Liberal campus
School with the biggest parties
Climate
Highest female to male ratio
Scenery
High school friends
Girlfriends
Too far from home
Too close to home
Offers my major
Perceived strength of the major

I just don't think athletics are too high on the list for the middle class kid who's parents watch the Super Bowl and World Series and that's it. Unless they grew up in a P5 college town so they understood what it means to have that.

I think it just matters on the state. Some like Nebraska are more focused on the college game than NFL, even middle class. Even people who never go to college have husker gear and wear it regularly. You get a red onesie with an N the first few weeks of your life. Income makes no difference.

Sure in a few states.

But raised a Cornhusker does that translate into attending Nebraska or life long T-Shirt fandom of Nebraska?

Kids go where they think will help them the most career wise or socially first. Some cases that ends up the P5 juggernaut sometimes it doesn't.

In Frank's lofty circles they've got the college rankings game down to a science and are in search of name as first priority.
02-15-2017 10:17 PM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-14-2017, 12:16 AM
RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-14-2017, 09:53 PM
RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-15-2017, 09:48 PM
RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - Kittonhead - 02-15-2017 10:17 PM
RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-15-2017, 10:20 PM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-17-2017, 04:21 PM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-27-2017, 10:07 AM
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - p23570 - 02-27-2017, 12:27 PM
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