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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away
(02-13-2017 11:56 PM)Attackcoog Wrote:  
(02-13-2017 04:18 PM)Stugray2 Wrote:  So quoting Dennis Dodd on twitter

http://www.cbssports.com/college-footbal...obstacles/

A lot of interesting points about the financial realities of G5 FB. Frazier notes:

"It's the truth: We don't have an access [point] to the playoff," Frazier said. "The reality is when you say it publicly."

Frazier says 33 percent of his budget is balanced on the backs of student fees attached to tuition. While that's not rare at the mid-major level, it may not be sustainable.

"Right now, I'm not making any money. I'm paying money. I'm trying to figure out how to keep up with the Ohio States, the Michigans, and the Wisconsins, which is a pipe dream," he said.

From planet American:

"Zero interest in the concept," said Aresco, who has added on many occasions his belief the American is the sixth power conference.

(well 10 of 12 AAC members did apply to join the B12).

However reality probably best summed up here:

"The CFP does provide more to every Group of Five institution," Florida Atlantic AD Patrick Chun said. "The other reality is, I don't know if the Group of Five is that unified to get all five conference involved."

I think Frazier will get his wish, they'll talk about it. But I doubt his $160m valuation holds up. Networks will pay for P5 content, they will not pay for G5 (exception when one or two teams get hot, they'll pick up a game or two, like Houston this last year)

Fraziers whole problem is he is living in fantasy land. When the CFP deal was struck, the P5 was receiving a combined total of total of 1.1 billion a year from TV for their regular season rights. Their playoff was worth 470 million--or less than half the value of their total regular season.

My guess is that ratio would be a reasonable yard stick by which to measure the value of the G5 playoff. The G5 gets a combined 53 million a year for their regular season rights. Thus, their playoff would be worth around 25 million using the same ratio as the P5. That 160 million dollar figure is about as real as rock candy mountains and chocolate rivers.

My guess is you could get close to 25 million or more for a 3-bowl series of "Champions Bowls" pitting the G5 champs not in the access bowl against top selections from the P5 conferences not in a CFP sponsored bowl. The bowls would be owned by the G5 as a group.

#2 G5 champ vs highest P5 not in a CFP Bowl (4 million each)
#3 G5 champs vs 2ns highest P5 not in a CFP Bowl (4 million each)
#4 G5 champ vs #5 G5 champ (2 million each)

The rest of the TV rights money, ticket sales, and naming rights money is split evenly among the G5 schools.

That's more than most any non CFP bowl pays. The G5 vs P5 access bowls have commanded excellent audiences. Even the high level G5 vs G5 bowls have done pretty well (UH vs SDSU grabbed over 3.5 million viewers).

I think something like this that works within the existing FBS/CFP framework makes much more sense than any hair brained idea of a separate "playoff".

I think you are spot on about this. The G5 would be better trying to squeeze $50 million out of the networks to play P5 schools.

This way if you win your conference you are guaranteed in what would be perceived as a major bowl. The G5 would then need less of the lower tier bowl games.

Taking this year I could see interest in the MWC, AAC, CUSA, SBC champions against Top 20 P5 competition. People like novelty and Cinderella stories.
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RE: Group of Five Playoff Idea not going away - Kittonhead - 02-14-2017 12:11 AM
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