(06-17-2026 10:04 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-17-2026 09:27 AM)banker Wrote:  

(06-17-2026 08:52 AM)b0ndsj0ns Wrote:  

(06-16-2026 08:32 PM)banker Wrote:  

(06-16-2026 03:44 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Per AAA, gas was $4.62 on average in California on February 26, 2025.

It was $4.63 on average on February 26, 2026.

What does February 26th have to do today where CA gas is $5.71? The last of those 3 refineries, and the biggest, just closed in late January 2026, another closed in November 2025, so now they are feeling it.

Texas gas prices are up $0.80 a gallon from February 2025. CA is up $1.08. That means they have seen a 35% higher rate of increase.

Sometimes it’s better to just not post than to try and be clever when you obviously aren’t.

Texas average was 2.55 prior to the war, today it's 3.52. That's an overall increase of 38% in price from the start of the war to today. California price was 4.37 before the war, today it's 5.67. That's an overall increase of 30% in price from the start of the war to today. Yes, the overall price increase is higher in California vs Texas, but the % increase compared to the starting point has actually been higher in Texas. If the lack of refineries is the end all be all the % increase should be far higher in California than Texas.

Can’t use percentages to defend your position, sorry. Thats letting you benefit from the already baked in higher cost in CA from taxes and regulatory burden. Remember, the underlying commodity price is the same for both states, difference in delta in dollar terms is the measure of poor governance.

I can defend "my position" however I'd like. How about my home state of North Carolina. Average price of 2.76 prior to the war, average price today of 3.63, for a % increase of 31% since the war started. 7% lower than the increase in Texas. It's worse in Mississippi. Average price before the war 2.53, today the average is 3.63, for a % increase of 43% since before the war. Is my home state of North Carolina having far better governance than Texas and Mississippi? Lower total $ increase and significantly lower % increase than both of them. Texas has gone up by .97, Mississippi by 1.10, and North Carolina by only .87

Those are all pretty good prices at each individually time imo. It's not where I prefer them but given each circumstance those are better prices than I saw in my region at those points.