(10-02-2018 09:56 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 09:48 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 09:31 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 09:19 AM)tanqtonic Wrote:  

(10-02-2018 07:07 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  I guess every single conservative who hopped on the “abolish the IRS” train a few years ago was actually arguing for abolishing all federal taxation.

Actually, many might. Duh.....

Thanks for making the cogent point against yourself.

I must have missed that train. Who was driving it - what candidate(s) ran on that platform?

We will always need tax collection enforcement. Even pure hearted liberals will dodge their taxes if they think they can get away with it. But various forms of tax reform can minimize or even eliminate the presence of the IRS in the lives of our citizens.

Rand Paul: http://abolishnow.com/

Ted Cruz: https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/ted-c...ng-the-irs

The Republican Study Committee: http://fortune.com/2016/05/02/congressio...h-the-irs/

Just like with Abolish ICE, if you dig past the sentence, the majority of the Reps calling for the abolishment of the IRS is because they want to simplify the federal tax code and a part of that would be abolishing the IRS (generally stated because it wouldn't be useful anymore).

So the Democrats have a plan in which ICE would not be useful anymore? What are the details and who are the advocates? The only one I have heard is no more deportations, no stopping people at the border.

I favor the Fair Tax, eliminating personal income taxes and replacing them with a national consumption tax. Under my plan, the IRS would be repurposed to auditing and enforcing the collectors of the consumption tax, exactly the same as is done now by the State Comptrollers office in collecting sales taxes.

But I NEVER, never, never called for the abolishment of the IRS.

I just sent you three links that propose abolishing the IRS...

My whole point is you can take a simple slogan at face value (Abolish the IRS or ICE) and think it sounds absurd. Or you can talk to the non-fringe politicians proposing it and realize that there is more to the plan.