(09-16-2018 04:49 PM)Claw Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 09:24 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(09-14-2018 08:58 AM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

(09-11-2018 03:17 PM)Claw Wrote:  I want the right to seek medical care guaranteed along with speech, religion, and guns.

Is "seek" the word you are looking for here? You already have the unencumbered ability to seek medical care.

I think the point is that single-payer obliterates that right and he wants to make it secure.

Exactly, Owl. In fact, if they would pass that amendment, I would support making national health care available in some form for those that choose to use it. I might even use it for some things.

Sorry, but I absolutely can't get behind that,

It opens up the proverbial can of worms.

You have access to healthcare right now. What you're talking about it other people PAYING for that healthcare. I have a REAL problem with me being required to pay for my insurance plus being required to pay for others as well just because my income is above some arbitrary line.

The problem is... what's next? So your healthcare is provided. Should healthy food be provided? How about adequate shelter? Utilities? Clothing? Transportation? Where does it stop? Where is the line drawn where it's no longer government's responsibility?

Sorry, it's not a "right" to have others pay your bills. It's not government's job to take care of you.

I'd go the opposite route and add to the new constitution that it's, in fact, NOT government's job to provide, but rather get out of the way so YOU can provide for yourself.