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RE: What if Texas.............
(07-12-2018 09:33 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-12-2018 09:19 PM)AllTideUp Wrote:  
(07-12-2018 08:12 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(07-12-2018 07:37 PM)OdinFrigg Wrote:  Say the B12 does have departures of OU, oSu, KU & WVU.
Texas has offers, but does not budge.
The UT people explore if they can create their own, new conference with essentially total control, yet have revenue coming in that is competitive with what was offered by other top conferences.
Assuming with Texas, that TCU, TTU, Baylor, KSU, and ISU remain, that would be six schools.
Texas leads in offers to Houston, Rice, SMU, and Tulane.
That would make 10.
Suppose they go further and add Memphis, Cincinnati, USF, and UCF.
That would be 14.
One can change the names with CSU or BYU and such.
I am not breaking them into divisions; you get the point.
Texas would be only highly elite member. Texas may exchange a few very prominent old conference opponents for lesser names in totality, but provide a more submissive group to financially and politically control and dominate.
Would the other P5 conferences keep them in their power fold along with the privileges afforded? I expect so, at least initially and minimumly for that level.
Certainly there would be drawbacks. But I believe Texas will consider such, again if they can financially swing it to their liking. They drop the Big12 name, calling the group something new. They would need a generous network backer.
I am not advocating this; rather trying to anticipate Texas' mindset when the time comes. If the effort fails or results become too lackluster, Texas exits and takes a 'P4' offer.

All it takes to destroy that option is a Champs Only format for the remaining P4. Even if we kept the CFP Selection Committee if Texas's SOS was judged to be lacking the opportunity to make the CFP being missed a few times would be enough to end it.

Well, it depends.

Technically, a champs only format could be done with more than 4 conferences. The requirement would be a conference championship to make the cut, but if you create a stipulation that Power conference champions become automatic qualifiers then that takes on a new meaning.

I think we'll have a very hard time creating an automatic qualifier system for a 4 team CFP until the Power leagues separate and form their own division.

The benefit of a champs only format is that we could force Notre Dame into the ACC and create greater stability. However, I'm not sure all the autonomy leagues would vote for that.

Only the SEC would have a reason to be against it. We are the only one's to have had a legitimate reason to believe we could get two in. Why? Because we did.

What do you think about this?

Let's say Texas and Oklahoma decide to give the Big 12 another go around. They do it with the stipulation that the autonomy conferences vote for a champs only format. We could view this as a sort of detente...

We still have 5 leagues, but it's guaranteed that 4 of the champions will make it in. Notre Dame joins in full and stability is increased that much more.

Does anyone actually bother expanding in that environment?

You've got a handful of G5 schools that could theoretically benefit certain leagues. Perhaps there are a couple pieces of the Big 12 that would fit better elsewhere and UT/OU could just replace them with the next best G5 part.

The 5 league system seems to be fairly balanced overall. It's just that there aren't quite enough superpowers to go around. If UT or OU move, however, then the imbalance only gets worse.
07-12-2018 09:48 PM
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What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-05-2018, 10:06 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-05-2018, 10:40 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - murrdcu - 07-06-2018, 12:48 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 01:03 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - murrdcu - 07-06-2018, 12:52 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 01:05 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 04:55 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 11:48 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 02:04 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 03:07 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 03:36 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 03:48 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - DawgNBama - 07-10-2018, 12:23 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-10-2018, 12:40 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 12:24 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - murrdcu - 07-07-2018, 06:53 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - ICThawk - 07-06-2018, 03:12 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 03:32 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 03:55 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - TerryD - 07-11-2018, 03:22 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-11-2018, 03:42 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - TerryD - 07-11-2018, 05:15 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 04:42 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 05:01 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 07-06-2018, 07:49 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-06-2018, 07:58 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - USAFMEDIC - 07-11-2018, 12:55 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-11-2018, 01:04 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-06-2018, 10:43 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-07-2018, 01:01 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-07-2018, 01:46 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-07-2018, 04:41 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-10-2018, 01:58 AM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-10-2018, 11:30 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-10-2018, 11:48 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-11-2018, 05:43 AM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-11-2018, 04:41 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-11-2018, 03:59 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 07-11-2018, 08:52 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-11-2018, 09:03 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - ICThawk - 07-11-2018, 11:03 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-11-2018, 11:32 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-12-2018, 07:38 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 07-11-2018, 11:29 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-12-2018, 02:40 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-12-2018, 03:03 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 07-12-2018, 07:37 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-12-2018, 09:33 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-12-2018 09:48 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-12-2018, 10:15 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-12-2018, 09:40 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 07-15-2018, 09:47 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-15-2018, 09:55 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - murrdcu - 07-17-2018, 11:09 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 07-17-2018, 08:06 AM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 07-17-2018, 10:58 AM
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RE: What if Texas............. - P5PACSEC - 07-31-2018, 09:00 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - OdinFrigg - 08-01-2018, 12:37 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 08-01-2018, 12:42 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - P5PACSEC - 08-01-2018, 02:04 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - P5PACSEC - 08-01-2018, 05:08 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 08-01-2018, 09:16 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 08-01-2018, 09:20 PM
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RE: What if Texas............. - AllTideUp - 08-01-2018, 09:47 PM
RE: What if Texas............. - JRsec - 08-01-2018, 10:09 PM
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