(01-12-2018 10:01 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(01-12-2018 09:57 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-12-2018 09:18 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  

(01-12-2018 09:13 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(01-12-2018 09:07 AM)Frizzy Owl Wrote:  My comments don't indicate that Trump is fit. I never said any such thing. I'm not arguing that Trump is fit. Please don't put words in my mouth.

I didn’t put any words in your mouth - I responded to your test question and then asked you explain to me how these comments indicate Trump is fit. Should I have asked if you think these comments indicate he is or isn’t and then to explain your rationale? You could haven simply responded that you don’t find Trump fit but you worry about the implications of such a theoretical test, or something else.

I’m sorry if you felt I implied something eith that question - I only meant to explicitly state that your questioning, without more context, was carrying water for Trump.

I don't care if he's fit. The republic can and has survived unfit presidents. The republic will not survive an extraconstitutional fitness test.

A policy of fitness as a condition of holding the office makes the man more important than the office.

So do you or don’t you think he is fit? It is the same type of question (qualitative) as him being a good one bad president.

I don’t think he should be removed based on “fitness,” but I think having a frank discussion about his fitness is good - we have other branches to help manage an unfit president.

Again, I don't care if he's fit. That's your concern, so that's why you should be the one to provide the definition. As for "good" or "bad" - I think he has a big mouth and needlessly antagonizes people, but on the other hand I like the fact that he hasn't really done much. He's also been the least warlike president we've had since Carter, and that's a very positive thing, although I do wish he'd follow through on promises to reduce military involvement in the Middle East.

You haven’t been asking for me to refined fitness, you’ve been asking to define a test to judge fitness. Ive responded to the latter.

Since you’re now asking for the former: have mental cognition fit for the job (speak abover a 3rd grade level, be able to communicate effectively, be able to read, digest, and respond to briefing material), have a temperament that allows for one to receive criticism, speak carefully and intentionally, understand how government works and functions, don’t be racist, don’t mock people with disabilities, be abovr the fray and have class when interacting with others. And literally be healthy enough to carry out the duties with full cognition.

Like I said, too difficult and too many issues with a fitness test, so eligibility will have to do. I mean, technically the voters could literally elect a brain dead person, right? I think that being the case is better than the slippery slopes of having fitness tests. But that doesn’t mean I can’t Dayne trump isn’t fit to be president.