(12-13-2017 09:33 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(12-11-2017 12:32 PM)miko33 Wrote:  ...feel that it is justified to kill people in the name of said religion...IMHO, that religion should be invalidated in any sane person's mind. I'm not saying that it should be outlawed in the U.S.; however, I think it's sane to call it out for what it really is. IMHO, Islam is in reality a godless cult run by men for the sole purpose of furthering the will of the men in charge of the various denominations within Islam.
I get that the majority of Muslims are probably peaceful people. But when 40%, 30% or even 20% of the people who believe in the religion believes that it is right in the eyes of God to kill in his name - there is a fundamental problem with the religion itself. This sh!t was typical back in the 1400s and earlier. Not today. Islam has way too many artifacts from a bygone era where we should know better. Sadly, the truly pathetic part is that Muslims in the middle ages were MUCH more tolerant and believers in propagating science than the idiots in the ME are today. That is a major problem for today's Muslims to grapple with.

Well, like it or not, a large part of the problem is that our attempts to westernize the Middle East drives many of them into the radical camp. Muslims were a problem for Europe until around 1500. Dias and da Gama found a way around Africa to India, and suddenly the overland trade routes became irrelevant, and we didn't hear much from them for about 400 years. Then we found oil there, and they became economically relevant again. So we started trying to micromanage their culture--for their own good, of course. And now they are reacting.

We build a school in Afghanistan, and for the first time boys and girls go ton school together. And 80% of them love. Problem is, the other 20% are down at the al-Qaeda/ISIS/terrorist flavor of the month recruiting office..

Leave them alone, and thy will leave us alone. Mess with them, and they mess with us. It's not rocket science.

Empower moderate Muslims to modernize at their own pace and it will happen.

XACLY! agree with that 20,000,000,000$%

all that was req'd was to leave 'em in their form of stone age and simply pay the toll tax.....there were so many different ways to let that one take shape.....

now, that region has become a problem by 'design'.....

human evolution.....it's a pickle at times.....we're simply witnesses of such in this day.....