(12-07-2017 11:11 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-07-2017 10:36 AM)Lush Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:52 AM)bullet Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 11:43 AM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(12-06-2017 10:59 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yeah it's disappointing. I love the outdoors and it's a shame that people like Trump only care about how much money they can make off the land rather than preserving the land for future generations.

It's all fracked up now. Pun intended.

Then you should be happy with this because it now allows recreational access to these lands.

The idea was to lock it up so that only well to do people or extreme outdoorsmen could use it, almost all of whom are white.

Basically the Obama administration was trying to make good parts of Utah economically unviable, to empty out "flyover" country, ignoring the people who actually live in Utah. This was done without any congressional approval, just Obama dictating to the "deplorables."

could you help me out with the bolded? the general public wasn't able to avail themselves of land? i'm pretty sure i've been hiking in the staircase

They are making it more difficult to access. So unless you are a serious hiker, its pretty much cut off.

he government buying up land for the public is fine with me. more land that i can count on. you should know that you don't have to be all that serious of a hiker to explore. you don't have to backcountry camp for a week to have a rewarding experience. i'm sure you feel my sentiments and i understand you feel otherwise since it is the logical economic solution, but perhaps we should consume less to begin with. things especially energy, should cost more. we'd be more conscious of consumption all the while buying time figure out what we're going to do when we've run out of ways to keep this world running. just ripping open the earth because it's there is like looking for a ham sandwich in a trash can

look what's become of lake mead (i believe) with their epic drought. pages of history open before your eyes