(03-27-2017 08:05 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(03-27-2017 05:25 AM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 07:58 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 05:44 PM)stinkfist Wrote:  

(03-26-2017 05:42 PM)Side Show Joe Wrote:  I guess that counts as a response.

accomplishing zero when looking for change and in command always results in zero (false)

was that better???

No. Ryancare was not substantially different from Obamacare. In fact, the CBO said it would not have done anything to reduce health care costs. By not voting on it, the dems still own this train wreak of a health care system.

you're missing the overall point....the point being when you have control, you push the agenda through to later achieve the overall goal of getting it right....once you own it early, it then becomes establishing a coalescing to accomplish what is 'best method'....it also then becomes being in a position of strength

the FC is whiffing the overall goal when their goal is to create change for what is right....they just lost Poe b/c of this

if one doesn't see it that way, then we'll have to agree to disagree in scope...

I'll use my chess metaphor again....sometimes you need to trade-off to gain the crown...

Oh I get your point, I just don't agree with it. Passing that steaming pile of poo called Ryancare would have placed it squarely in the shoulders of the GOP when the midterms hit. And its continued escalating costs would surely hurt republicans at the ballet boxes. Plus, if Ryancare would have passed, congress would have placed it on the back burner, and moved on to their pet projects. They would not have worked to further modify and fix it.

In case you didn't notice, the last election was a clear rebuke of the establishment party. All Trump really did by backing this weak establishment repeal, was align himself with the same swamp politicians he was sent to Washington to expose and run off. Shame on him.

I was quite disappointed in Poe for withdrawing from the Freedom Caucus. Midterms are won by the base that is more energized. The dem leadership is in mortal fear right now. Soros and the rest will be paying good money to buy protesters and bus dem voters to the various polls in the midterms. The Tea Party and those that lean towards the Freedom Caucus are far more engaged and likely to stir up votes in their district then establishment republicans. Poe will certainly face a Tea Party/Freedom Caucus challenge. And Poe will probably lose.

I have stated this in other posts... Texas is no longer a republican state, it is now a conservative state. We have purged our state of most of the establishment republicans. We have very conservative elected officials in most offices. Many won due to the backing of the Tea Party. There is a high likelihood that Poe will be replaced with a much more conservative individual.

Another chess metaphor. You don't always go for checkmate. Most of the time, you just want to win a pawn. That is more likely to lead to an eventual victory than a hell-bent all or nothing attack.