(07-29-2016 09:01 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 08:46 AM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 06:41 AM)RiceLad15 Wrote:  

(07-29-2016 12:23 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(07-28-2016 07:55 PM)Rick Gerlach Wrote:  .

I, honest to God, would've voted for Sanders over Trump, even though I disagree with many of his positions, simply because he is the only person left running (at least late in the game) who I believed was honest and who I could trust. Any damage he could've done would've been severely limited by Congress.

This make strike some people who know me speechless, but I considered the same thing. Thank goodness the DNC rendered that choice moot.

I have not decided how I will handle the vote for president. The only I am sure of is that I will not be voting for Hillary. I may vote third party, I may write in somebody, I may leave that part of the ballot blank, and I may vote Trump. Decision in late October.

If you mind sharing, why would you consider voting for Trump?

Can't speak for Buddy, but I believe that a lot of the people who end up voting for Trump will be doing so because they absolutely do not want to vote for Hillary and perceive any other option a waste of their vote. That probably seems horrifying to some (as I said, I'm resigned to throwing my vote away. The deck is stacked, which is why I understand why Sander's supporters would protest), but the fact remains that a sizeable percentage of those who will vote for Hillary in November will be doing so for EXACTLY the same reason: they absolutely do not want to vote for Trump.

I could surmise from your posts that you perceive that to be the most important reason to vote for HRC yourself. Hardly a ringing endorsement.

If Hillary wins, she should consider that she has been handed a great gift. Given Trump's prior support of HRC, the minority prone to conspiracy theories will probably begin muttering about how things have lined up. (To be clear, I am not one of them)

I've articulated why I prefer HRC over Trump, and how I feel that the shortcomings of HRC are not nearly as consequential as Trumps. I will also vote for HRC because, while I would have preferred a better candidate on a personal/character level, I still agree with a majority of her broad, policy decisions.

So it's a combination of not disagreeing with her policy positions and not wanting to throw my vote away because I believe Trump has a much greater potential to do something that could damage our country.

But why vote Trump over a third-party candidate, what about him makes you believe he is a better alternative to HRC (since a third-party candidate is, in essence, making that claim)?

I cannot vote for HRC under any circumstances, since I cannot vote for a person who stands on a tarmac while they unload bodies and knowingly whispers lies into the ears of grieving parents. Better to waste my vote than to vote for such a person. JMHO.

Why would I consider Trump? I don't like him. I think a
wall is silly. When we had 17 Republican candidates and 4 Democrats, Trump was about 14-16th and Hillary 4th, so the nominations certainly did not turn out as I would have wished.

Hillary is pretty much a known factor, and what she is, is not, IMO, good for the country. Trump is a gamble, could be better, could be worse, so a double or nothing choice. I am waiting to hear more and see more who he surrounds himself with before taking that gamble.

I do think his volatility might make him a better person to sit across the table from foreign leaders. Nobody wants to negotiate with the Hulk. Everybody would prefer the person they can manipulate. Hillary had four years to display her negotiating skills, and zip.

Like Rick, I thought Sanders was honest, if misguided, and that the Congress in a bipartisan way would keep him in check. Hillary or Trump either one just brings more partisanship.

I do like a lot of things about the Libertarians. The main thing I have against them is that they are largely a symbolic vote, a none-of-the-above choice. If I am just casting a symbolic protest, though, I can write in somebody (I have done that before). I might vote
Trump as a lesser evil. Yeah, I know, the lesser evil is still evil. It is still lesser, too.

Can't stay home, I do want to vote in the down ticket races.

JMHOs.