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How much about history do we not know?
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RE: How much about history do we not know?
(06-21-2014 02:23 PM)Kittonhead Wrote:  
(06-21-2014 11:17 AM)bitcruncher Wrote:  Try both Crusades, Nazi Germany (the swastika was a Christian symbol FYI), the Roman persecution of Christians (thrown to the lions for the entertainment of Roman citizens), the sacrifices in Burma in the name of Buddhism, the sacrifices to Kali by the Thuggees of India, the 1600s Witch Hunts in Massachussets, the Mountain Meadows massacre in 1857 Utah, Aztec sacrificial practices, the various Islamic jihads, the IRA's fight against the Ulsters, etc.

I could keep going. But you should get the idea by now, unless your head is made of stone.
A quick top 10 crimes against humanity list.

America nuking Japan (war crime)
Emperor Hirohito was considered a God King by the Japanese - in their eyes they were fighting a religious war. The nuclear attack probably saved more lives than it took. It was NOT a war crime, since it brought a swift end to what would have been a prolonged and bloody war had the US invaded Japanese soil
9-11 World Trade Center attack (war crime)
This was an attack by people who thought they were fighting a religious war, in case you missed the memo
African Transcontinental Slave Trade (economic crime)
I'll grant you this ONE. But you've proven nothing so far, except for your ignorance of the motivations of your examples. The slavers considered African slaves less than human, which is why the Three Fifths Compromise was added to the US Constitution
Israeli Occupation of the West Bank (religion)
Nazi Germany (ethnic cleansing)
The Germans were fighting a war to purify the human race, based on their misguided interpretations of Biblical teachings - a religious motivation
Mongol Golden Horde (economic crime) They were fighting for their religion, although since it wasn't a major religion I can understand your mistake here. To the Mongols city living was an abomination, against the will of their Gods
Stalin Purges & Relocations (power struggle)
The Russian version of communism was a sort of religion in itself, even if God wasn't part of the equation. BTW the first people in Russia that were persecuted were those who refused to give up their religion, mainly Russian Orthodox
Rawandan Genocide (ethnic cleansing) There was a difference of belief between the 2 sides, which makes it a war about religious differences
Spanish Inqusition (religion)
Khmer Rouge Killing Fields (power struggle)
They were mainly murdering Buddhists, trying to eliminate all religions in the region, which makes it about religion

Only 2 of the 10 greatest crimes against humanity had religion at its forefront. The majority had nothing or little to do with religion. The Crusades were Vatican inspired conquest though far from one of humanities greatest crimes. American Indian repression was sporadic, over the course of centuries and the reflection of new power realities. Its hard to classify that as a genocide as much as a culture clash. Given that billions have enjoyed their religions peacefully over the years more good than harm has been done (though there are plenty of examples of harm).
You need to read up a bit more. You have ignored the religious aspects of most of your examples. Even if the crime is an effort to kill a religion, and the people who follow it, the crime is about religion. Only ONE of the examples you listed isn't attributable to religion in one way or another.
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