(10-15-2021 04:08 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(10-15-2021 03:09 PM)GoBigRed26 Wrote:  

(10-14-2021 09:46 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Memphis 3pt shooting last year was 20th out of 30 nba teams. Not exactly stellar 3pt shooting and other teams, playoff teams, simply outscore us routinely. We play hard.

The Grizzlies consider Melton as a potential backup to Ja, and it is the main reason Tyus Jones is trade bait. Bane was great last season but we traded away two 3pt threats, and did not pick one up.

You don't have to be a pure PG to give Ja a breather and there are some players we are going to have to trade or let walk.

The only way our 3pt shooting improves this season is if JJJ stays healthy and is on fire, because Adams isn't going to stretch the floor like Jonas could. Ja might become a improved 3pt shooter.

Where we may be improved is defensively. Hopefully DB is not hurt for long and Adams is better defensively than Jonas. The lack of shooters and scoring is going to be our achilles heel this season and in the foreseeable future until we address it. That is not a knock on our players, and it is a fact.

Traded away 2 3-point threats? Yes, Allen, but Jonas' 3-point shooting is such a minimal factor. He averaged 0.9 attempts per game and made 36.8% of them. He makes 1 three pointer every 3 games. That's not a threat. Dieng was more of a threat than Jonas. And as far as Allen, all of his time will now be replaced with Bane and Melton. Melton and Bane both had higher 3pt% than Allen last year, so without Allen, we could easily get better. Not to mention if Clarke can shake that horrid shooting from last season and go back to how he did his rookie season, and then if Jaren stays healthy, our 3 point shooting could make it into the upper half of the league.

You do realize a shooter doesn't have to actually shoot the 3 top be a threat from 3 and spread the floor? Yes Jonas was a threat from 3. If you aren't on the floor, then you aren't a threat, so no, Dieng was not more of a threat than Jonas, nor is Adams.

We are not a great 3 point shooting team, not even close. It is unrealistic to believe that our 3pt shooting has improved from last season. JJJ if he is healthy should help neutralize our losses. That said, ill take the under on the Grizzlies. 40.5 may be close, but we will not be a legitimate playoff team until we address our outside shooting issues.

Another year in Jenkins system, Bane being in year two and JJJ being back should put them in the top 15 in 3 point shooting

The answer may be the 15th spot on the Grizzlies roster, 6'4" guard Sam Merrill, who hit 8 3's the other night at Indiana. He was a throw in from Milwaukee in the offseason trade. Hopefully the Grizz keep him as the last cuts haven't been announced yet. Could be our best off the bench sniper since Troy Daniels. Jaren Jackson hit 7 3's last night in Chicago.

(10-16-2021 11:31 AM)UofMark Wrote:  The answer may be the 15th spot on the Grizzlies roster, 6'4" guard Sam Merrill, who hit 8 3's the other night at Indiana. He was a throw in from Milwaukee in the offseason trade. Hopefully the Grizz keep him as the last cuts haven't been announced yet. Could be our best off the bench sniper since Troy Daniels. Jaren Jackson hit 7 3's last night in Chicago.

We are fine with Jaren, Melton and Bane

(10-14-2021 09:46 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  Memphis 3pt shooting last year was 20th out of 30 nba teams. Not exactly stellar 3pt shooting and other teams, playoff teams, simply outscore us routinely. We play hard.

The Grizzlies consider Melton as a potential backup to Ja, and it is the main reason Tyus Jones is trade bait. Bane was great last season but we traded away two 3pt threats, and did not pick one up.

You don't have to be a pure PG to give Ja a breather and there are some players we are going to have to trade or let walk.

The only way our 3pt shooting improves this season is if JJJ stays healthy and is on fire, because Adams isn't going to stretch the floor like Jonas could. Ja might become a improved 3pt shooter.

Where we may be improved is defensively. Hopefully DB is not hurt for long and Adams is better defensively than Jonas. The lack of shooters and scoring is going to be our achilles heel this season and in the foreseeable future until we address it. That is not a knock on our players, and it is a fact.

Jaren makes up for Jonas being gone and our best 3 point shooter Bane getting more minutes makes up for Allen being gone

132 pts and 14 3’s

Ja with a great game- ,can’t win em all if you don’t win the first game!

(10-21-2021 06:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Ja with a great game- ,can’t win em all if you don’t win the first game!

Ja looked like a superstar. Defense wasn't great but offense was great.

(10-21-2021 07:44 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 06:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Ja with a great game- ,can’t win em all if you don’t win the first game!

Ja looked like a superstar. Defense wasn't great but offense was great.

Ja is without a doubt a superstar, and the best player the Grizzlies have ever drafted.

(10-21-2021 03:35 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 07:44 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 06:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Ja with a great game- ,can’t win em all if you don’t win the first game!

Ja looked like a superstar. Defense wasn't great but offense was great.

Ja is without a doubt a superstar, and the best player the Grizzlies have ever drafted.

so the Grizzlies have had a better player that was drafted by another team?

So the Grizz got their 20th win last night in the 34th game. Last year they got to 20 in the 40th game and two years ago it took them to the 44th game. Positive trending for sure. Our record for quickest to 20 wins was the 14-15 season when it took 24 games under Dave Joerger. Slowest was 06-07 when it took 80 games to hit 20 wins. Mike Fratello and Tony Barone split coaching duties that stellar year.

(10-21-2021 04:25 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 03:35 PM)MemphisTigerPawr Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 07:44 AM)mairving Wrote:  

(10-21-2021 06:48 AM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  Ja with a great game- ,can’t win em all if you don’t win the first game!

Ja looked like a superstar. Defense wasn't great but offense was great.

Ja is without a doubt a superstar, and the best player the Grizzlies have ever drafted.

so the Grizzlies have had a better player that was drafted by another team?

Very savvy drafting by the Grizz, Brooks in the 2nd round, Bane and Clarke late in the 1st. Bane just seems to get better and better. He started as just a spot up shooter but has added to his offensive skills and is a good defender.

So the Grizz got their 20th win last night in the 34th game. Last year they got to 20 in the 40th game and two years ago it took them to the 44th game. Positive trending for sure. Our record for quickest to 20 wins was the 14-15 season when it took 24 games under Dave Joerger. Slowest was 06-07 when it took 80 games to hit 20 wins. Mike Fratello and Tony Barone split coaching duties that stellar year.

Mark / Mark,

Question....if the Grizz win the division, are we guaranteed home court in the first round of the playoffs? Or do they seed strictly based on conference record.

(12-27-2021 04:55 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Mark / Mark,

Question....if the Grizz win the division, are we guaranteed home court in the first round of the playoffs? Or do they seed strictly based on conference record.

No, divisional champs used to be guaranteed a top 4 slot, now seeding done solely on record:

From a press release from the NBA:

The NBA Board of Governors unanimously approved changes to playoff seeding and qualification procedures effective with the 2015-16 season, the league announced today.

As part of the modifications, the eight playoff teams in each conference will be seeded in order of their regular-season record. Most recently, every division winner was guaranteed a top four seed in its respective conference regardless of its record but did not receive home-court advantage if its playoff opponent had a better record.

(12-27-2021 05:33 PM)BinghamptonNed Wrote:  

(12-27-2021 04:55 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  Mark / Mark,

Question....if the Grizz win the division, are we guaranteed home court in the first round of the playoffs? Or do they seed strictly based on conference record.

No, divisional champs used to be guaranteed a top 4 slot, now seeding done solely on record:

From a press release from the NBA:

The NBA Board of Governors unanimously approved changes to playoff seeding and qualification procedures effective with the 2015-16 season, the league announced today.

As part of the modifications, the eight playoff teams in each conference will be seeded in order of their regular-season record. Most recently, every division winner was guaranteed a top four seed in its respective conference regardless of its record but did not receive home-court advantage if its playoff opponent had a better record.

Remember in the first round of the 2015 Playoffs we were the 5 seed to Portland's 4 but we had home court due to a better record.

oh yea guys...I knew it USED to be the case, but I remember now

Thank You!

(12-27-2021 06:04 PM)k2tigers Wrote:  oh yea guys...I knew it USED to be the case, but I remember now

Thank You!

Standings and playoff opponent manipulation has been around forever. In fact the division winners used to be guaranteed a top 3 seed. In the 05-06 season the Grizzlies and Clippers were locked in a 5-6 seed battle going down the stretch. During that stretch the Clippers *lost* a couple more than the Grizz. The reward was the Clippers fell to the 6th seed and got 3 seed division winner and only 44 win Denver. The 5th seeded Grizzlies got the 60 win, 4th seeded Mavericks but 2nd in division to the 63 win Spurs. The Mavericks had the 3rd best record in all the NBA that season.

(10-16-2021 02:04 AM)tiger1016 Wrote:  We should expect improvement from the younger players. We hit the over easy.

Barring anything unexpected, we should blow past preseason expectations. The team is on a 50+ win trajectory thanks to Morant’s Rose-like MVP season and Bane’s meteoric rise. I think we end up with a 54-56 win season. What say ya’ll?

(10-09-2021 08:02 PM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 05:48 AM)Dynamos Wrote:  

(10-09-2021 01:04 AM)SpiderMan79x Wrote:  I'm taking the under.

Why?

They very well may prove me wrong, but I have 2 reasons:

1) I am not convinced that the Grizzlies improved in the offseason, and may have taken a step back.

2) I'm never right, so saying under is a sure fire way for them to be over. lol

This team has been amazing so far. Totally exceeded any expectations that I had before the season started. There is not a another player in the league that I'd rather have than JM, but it's not just him being a superstar. The whole team is playing incredibly well together.

I was wrong to be concerned with the offseason moves. Honestly believed they were going to take a step back this year. I was utterly and completely wrong.

Grizz got their 25th win this year in game 39, last year it was game 48 and two years ago it was game 50. Record is the 14/15 season when it was game 34.