(07-20-2021 01:03 PM)Fighting Muskie Wrote:  

(07-20-2021 12:39 PM)Yosef Himself Wrote:  Now that Tennessee has taken over Martin Methodist and rebranded as UT Southern, I wonder how long they'll stay in the NAIA?

Where would they go? D2 Gulf South?

I believe they will make it to the Gulf South, it would really help if they add football. The Peach Belt isn't to bad of an option either for a non-football conference. They're not that far outside the PBC footprint, the drive is fairly decent to several members.

(07-19-2021 11:12 PM)teamvsn Wrote:  TAMU-SA, because of their growth plan, the state that they're in and the conferences they could join.

Everyone else is a super long shot.

UC Merced could grow enough to be big enough. There's a lot of land that could be bought in Merced. But there's not enough of a fan base. Merced is sort of a bedroom community for the East Bay area, and all those people are actually fans of teams in the Bay Area.

UBC could go if indeed the NCAA ever allows it. They are big and high academic. Beautiful campus in a great city. I don't think the NCAA would allow it though.

I don't think OK City is a prospect. Since the NBA came to town there's not been as much interest. Too small a school and too small an endowment.

Georgia Gwinnett, now up to 12k students. It will take a facilities campaign to get a basketball arena.

Bellevue, NE. About 10k students but only 28m endowment.

All of these are much better prospects for D2 than D1, but seem to be very comfortable playing for championships in the NAIA. But given 25 years? A lot could change.

Bellevue is a commuter school focused on older, working students. Not really DI material

University North Texas at Dallas might get big enough to join D1 if they could pull if off.

There are schools not listed yet that public schools took over like Lambuth is now part of Memphis's branch.

I am surprise that some of the growth at some of the publics in the NAIA got stunted a bit. I just don't think their culture really fits them to be down there. It is hard to get noticed in NAIA as it is as D1 is hogging the spotlight.

None can because they have to be d2 first

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

HBU now HCU got a waiver because they used to be D-I so they went from the NAIA to D-I after the D-II rule was applied. St.Thomas also did it going D-III to D-I. So OCU and Loyola(LA) could since they were D-I. But other than them, no one.

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

id be fine with all of em moving up lol

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

Georgia Gwinnett, who seems to be uninterested in basketball. But everything else makes sense.

The B1G desire for U of Toronto had NOTHING to do with AAU! It wants access to Toronto, AKA one of the biggest cities in North America!

(11-03-2022 10:12 AM)Erictelevision Wrote:  The B1G desire for U of Toronto had NOTHING to do with AAU! It was access to Toronto, AKA one of the biggest cities in North America!

(11-03-2022 09:37 AM)teamvsn Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

Georgia Gwinnett, who seems to be uninterested in basketball. But everything else makes sense.

I was comparing to Kennesaw State.

1976 became four-year university.
1983 NAIA
1995 NCAA DII
2006 NCAA DI-FCS
2024 NCAA DI-FBS

For GGC:

(it seems odd that they are still C with 12,000 students, but Georgia appears to call its community colleges, "technical colleges", which suggests more of a focus on certification rather than first two years of academic work.)

2005 established
2012 NAIA

Based on Kennesaw State

(2024 NCAA DII)
(2035 NCAA DI)

DI with 12 years to spare.

Any Penn State branches NAIA??

(11-04-2022 03:01 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  Any Penn State branches NAIA??

https://www.psuschuylkillathletics.com/landing/index

Dual NAIA and USCCA.

Any of the west coast NAIA football schools will go up? D1 and D3 have the most.

British Columbia
Victoria
Southern Oregon
College of Idaho
Eastern Oregon
Simpson
Arizona Christian
Ottawa Arizona

A coupld could be future like Lincoln California who are unaffiliated and Snow out of Utah who could go 4 years. It is pretty sad to have very little schools with football that does hurt with the cost for the west coast schools.

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

UC Merced wants NCAA Division II California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).

UC Merced hopes to join the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the near future. The school's goal is to compete at the NCAA Division II level as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...#Athletics

(11-04-2022 02:12 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

UC Merced wants NCAA Division II California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).

UC Merced hopes to join the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the near future. The school's goal is to compete at the NCAA Division II level as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...#Athletics

UC Merced will eventually be in the Big West with most of the other UC's.

(11-04-2022 04:39 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 02:12 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

UC Merced wants NCAA Division II California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).

UC Merced hopes to join the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the near future. The school's goal is to compete at the NCAA Division II level as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...#Athletics

UC Merced will eventually be in the Big West with most of the other UC's.

Isn't Sacramento State the only Division I CSU (or UC) that doesn't belong to the Big West?

(11-04-2022 04:55 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 04:39 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 02:12 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

UC Merced wants NCAA Division II California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).

UC Merced hopes to join the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the near future. The school's goal is to compete at the NCAA Division II level as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...#Athletics

UC Merced will eventually be in the Big West with most of the other UC's.

Isn't Sacramento State the only Division I CSU (or UC) that doesn't belong to the Big West?

Fresno State
San Jose State
San Diego State

(11-04-2022 04:55 PM)PeteTheChop Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 04:39 PM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-04-2022 02:12 PM)joeben69 Wrote:  

(11-03-2022 02:16 AM)jimrtex Wrote:  

(11-02-2022 08:16 PM)Illinoisking91 Wrote:  None can because they have to be d2 first

Three years to become a DII members, then five years as DII member, then four years to transition to DI.

So 12 years for a change to DI, and the question asked about 25 years.

NAIA schools that are public, fairly large, fairly new, and growing, and increasingly don't fit with their NAIA league-mates, and leaders may be wanting to foster a whole experience that includes academics, athletics, and dorm housing.

Possibilities include

UC-Merced
TAMU-San Antonio
Middle Georgia
Indiana University-Southeast

UC Merced wants NCAA Division II California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).

UC Merced hopes to join the National Collegiate Athletic Association (NCAA) in the near future. The school's goal is to compete at the NCAA Division II level as part of the California Collegiate Athletic Association (CCAA).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/University...#Athletics

UC Merced will eventually be in the Big West with most of the other UC's.

Isn't Sacramento State the only Division I CSU (or UC) that doesn't belong to the Big West?

San Jose State, San Diego State, and Fresno State are in the Mountain West, and UCLA and Cal-Berkeley are in the Pac-12 (for now).

But Sacramento State is an odd-ball since they are in the Big Sky. They could just as easily be in the Big West, and play football as an affiliate in the Big Sky (like UC-Davis and Cal Poly-SLO). There must be some historical quirk, since Sacramento State affiliates their baseball with the WAC (the Big Sky does not sponsor baseball).

CSU-Channel Islands does not have athletics above the club level. Despite the name, the main campus is on the mainland. UC San Francisco also does not have athletices, but they are the medical branch.

Here is a question? I keep hearing Santa Rosa which is a big school in California, go from being a community college to a full fledge four year school? They have several that UC system could take over and turned them into a good four year college. A lot of them have football which could help football in the NAIA and NCAA levels in the future.