(03-18-2021 02:18 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(03-18-2021 12:44 PM)Screwball Wrote:  Coaching isn't the problem - recruiting is. Toledo just doesn't get the athletes. It's that simple.

Can other MAC schools consistently get athletes or is it a conference issue?

Nate Oats got some very good athletes, and ball players alike to come through buffalo in his tenure. Among them CJ Massingburg, Jeremy Harris, Nick Perkins, I believe Jayvon Graves was recruited by Oats as well.

(03-18-2021 02:29 PM)PrettyGoodRocket Wrote:  

(03-18-2021 02:18 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(03-18-2021 12:44 PM)Screwball Wrote:  Coaching isn't the problem - recruiting is. Toledo just doesn't get the athletes. It's that simple.

Can other MAC schools consistently get athletes or is it a conference issue?

Nate Oats got some very good athletes, and ball players alike to come through buffalo in his tenure. Among them CJ Massingburg, Jeremy Harris, Nick Perkins, I believe Jayvon Graves was recruited by Oats as well.

And look what he's done at Alabama

(03-18-2021 02:18 PM)PaulJ Wrote:  

(03-18-2021 12:44 PM)Screwball Wrote:  Coaching isn't the problem - recruiting is. Toledo just doesn't get the athletes. It's that simple.

Can other MAC schools consistently get athletes or is it a conference issue?

Conference has a role, no doubt. The MAC doesn't get the same recruits the P5 schools do. We get what they don't want and it shows up when we play them.

As much disappointment as we fans all feel, imagine how disappointed the team is. No one is more affected by tough losses than the players and coaches, not to mention the coaches' families. After the OU loss, TK's wife tweeted that the coaches' kids "feel this loss so deeply...for their dads and for their Rocket brothers on and off the court."

Richmond lost to Mississippi St. tonight in the last couple of minutes. I can't remember the score. Good game. Their two best players were still out. That's pretty impressive IMO.