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2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
John Feinstein is reporting that the 2021 NIT is on.

BUT

It will only be a 16 team tournament played entirely in New York (bad decision) and will not award automatic bids to regular season conference champions who lose in their respective conference tournaments (worse decision).

https://thespun.com/college-hoops/nit-re...tournament

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Another story out there is the West Coast Conference pondering stealing an additional bid to the NCAA tournament with rumors that NCAA-locks Gonzaga and BYU are both considering skipping the league's post-season tournament.

https://www.sltrib.com/sports/byu-cougar...s-opt-out/

The NCAA needs to put a stop to that. On last Saturdays bracket show, the committee did say that any conference who plans to hold a tournament to decide their representative is expected to have all required teams participate. They need to go a step further and rule that any conference that has qualified teams opt out without verifiable virus issues lose their automatic bid. This type of dirty underhanded, unsportsmanlike behavior must be dealt with harshly.

I would personally go a step further and hit them hard by demoting its at-large teams by two full lines in the NCAA bracket as a penalty for sitting out..in this case taking Gonzaga to a 3 and BYU to a 12 (and a play in game).
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Yeah, something has to be done. This will happen in every conference if there is no consequence for doing so.
02-17-2021 11:48 AM
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
The NCAA basketball committee is the real problem. The field should be expanded to 96 or 128 versus 68 if you want a fair way to select the at large teams.
Or reduce the NCAA field to 48 to stop committee from cherry picking the last 20 teams to fill out the bracket.
I have no problem with the WCC picking up an extra bid they might receive over a power 5 conference. The current system is completely rigged. Are you worried about the possibility of leaving out an 11th place Big 10 team or the 10th place ACC team?
02-17-2021 07:03 PM
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Agree with bigdunks. For years I’ve been arguing that if you’re less than .500 in conference (including conference tournament), you can’t receive an at large bid. It’s not a total fix, but it’s a start
02-17-2021 07:31 PM
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(02-17-2021 07:03 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  The field should be expanded to 96 or 128 versus 68 if you want a fair way to select the at large teams.

So, you think an expanded field will lead to more mid-majors getting bids? If you believe that, I've got some property I'd like to sell you... The fact is, if the tourney expanded we would just see even more trash teams from the power 5 getting bids over deserving mid-majors.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(02-17-2021 07:31 PM)LairDweller Wrote:  Agree with bigdunks. For years I’ve been arguing that if you’re less than .500 in conference (including conference tournament), you can’t receive an at large bid. It’s not a total fix, but it’s a start

I agree with that for sure. My issue isn’t the wcc doing this, my issue is the big ten, and pac 12, and acc, etc. pulling the same stunt.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Since the NCAA owns both tournaments, I would like to see the two equally filled with - say 64 teams - teams, play out the brackets as they do now and then have the top team from each side play a best of 3, 5 or 7 series for the NC. The NC series would be the only games added to a team's schedule that are not played now.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(02-17-2021 07:41 PM)BatesUAB Wrote:  
(02-17-2021 07:03 PM)bigdunks Wrote:  The field should be expanded to 96 or 128 versus 68 if you want a fair way to select the at large teams.

So, you think an expanded field will lead to more mid-majors getting bids? If you believe that, I've got some property I'd like to sell you... The fact is, if the tourney expanded we would just see even more trash teams from the power 5 getting bids over deserving mid-majors.

Expanding the field to 128 would include all deserving mid-majors.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
NIT possible?
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Shouldn’t go to NCAAs if you have a losing conference record. Solves most problems with gaming the system
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(03-13-2021 11:11 AM)notnow Wrote:  NIT possible?

Like a 2% chance.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Well, better than most teams.
See what I did there. Turned it positive.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
Saw a post on CUSA board that the Blazers and Marshall are replacement teams in the NIT should any of the 16 invited teams have opening round playing issues.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(03-13-2021 01:50 PM)notnow Wrote:  Well, better than most teams.
See what I did there. Turned it positive.

No......that's not what you did. That's not what you did at all. Not even close....lol.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(03-14-2021 08:40 PM)notnow Wrote:  Saw a post on CUSA board that the Blazers and Marshall are replacement teams in the NIT should any of the 16 invited teams have opening round playing issues.


Also means if any of the 16 invited teams get called up to the dance.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(03-14-2021 08:40 PM)notnow Wrote:  Saw a post on CUSA board that the Blazers and Marshall are replacement teams in the NIT should any of the 16 invited teams have opening round playing issues.

F that!! I have no knowledge of HCAK’s thinking, but we shouldn’t an offhand replacement to a tournament full of P5 crumbs, IMHO. We didn’t earn the Dance, I have no delusion about that, but if we’re not deemed “worthy” of the NIT then we shouldn’t be waiting hat in hand.
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(03-14-2021 10:10 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(03-14-2021 08:40 PM)notnow Wrote:  Saw a post on CUSA board that the Blazers and Marshall are replacement teams in the NIT should any of the 16 invited teams have opening round playing issues.

F that!! I have no knowledge of HCAK’s thinking, but we shouldn’t an offhand replacement to a tournament full of P5 crumbs, IMHO. We didn’t earn the Dance, I have no delusion about that, but if we’re not deemed “worthy” of the NIT then we shouldn’t be waiting hat in hand.


Hmmm...theres no team currently in the NIT field we deserve a spot over. Since when are we too good for the NIT
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
What about that CBI tournament? 05-hide
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
I suspect that the players would welcome any chance to keep playing. I see any post season tournament as an opportunity to begin the preparation for next season.
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RE: 2021 NIT format changes, post-season shenanigans?
(03-14-2021 10:13 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:  
(03-14-2021 10:10 PM)blazr Wrote:  
(03-14-2021 08:40 PM)notnow Wrote:  Saw a post on CUSA board that the Blazers and Marshall are replacement teams in the NIT should any of the 16 invited teams have opening round playing issues.

F that!! I have no knowledge of HCAK’s thinking, but we shouldn’t an offhand replacement to a tournament full of P5 crumbs, IMHO. We didn’t earn the Dance, I have no delusion about that, but if we’re not deemed “worthy” of the NIT then we shouldn’t be waiting hat in hand.


Hmmm...theres no team currently in the NIT field we deserve a spot over. Since when are we too good for the NIT

We aren’t. If a spot opens we take that, especially in a 16 team field.
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