(01-22-2021 01:32 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  Message not received. You are on ignore list.

No one is talking to you, you clownshoe.

Some of the RPI rankings are

#4 (NET) Houston ............#3 (RPI)
#56 (NET) SMU ...............#46 (RPI)
#70 (NET) Wichita St. ......#56 (RPI)
#78 (NET) UCF ................#118 (RPI)
#82 (NET) Tulsa ..............#110 (RPI)
#91 (NET) Memphis ..........#123 (RPI)
#112 (NET) Temple ..........#83 (RPI)
#116 (NET) Cincy .............#184 (RPI) (!)
#118 (NET) USF ...............#117 (RPI)
#125 (NET) ECU ...............#60 (RPI) (!)
#186 (NET) Tulane ............#110 (RPI) (!)

RPI's current conference ranking for the AAC is #4. (!)

(01-22-2021 11:00 AM)TIGERCITY Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 09:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  NET Rankings are out: - 1/21 update

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

1-15 / 1-21
6 / 5 Houston
58 / 56 SMU
50 / 59 WSU
82 / 75 UCF
68 / 79 Tulsa
134 / 110 Temple
107 / 112 Memphis
105 / 118 Cincy
119 / 122 South Florida
128 / 129 ECU
170 / 189 Tulane

These aren't the 1-21 updated rankings. At least as of today - maybe that they updated again last night. Memphis is 91.

I updated on 1/21. Which is for games through 1/20. Memphis is 91 after winning on 1/21 which would be the 1/22 update

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(01-22-2021 06:08 PM)jedclampett Wrote:  Some of the RPI rankings are

#4 (NET) Houston ............#3 (RPI)
#56 (NET) SMU ...............#46 (RPI)
#70 (NET) Wichita St. ......#56 (RPI)
#78 (NET) UCF ................#118 (RPI)
#82 (NET) Tulsa ..............#110 (RPI)
#91 (NET) Memphis ..........#123 (RPI)
#112 (NET) Temple ..........#83 (RPI)
#116 (NET) Cincy .............#184 (RPI) (!)
#118 (NET) USF ...............#117 (RPI)
#125 (NET) ECU ...............#60 (RPI) (!)
#186 (NET) Tulane ............#110 (RPI) (!)

RPI's current conference ranking for the AAC is #4. (!)

The problem in the AAC isn't the AVERAGE performance level, it's that we don't have a "top" right now after Houston.

I think SOMEONE will get hot late and steal a #10 seed.

Our RPI is artificially inflated by ECU and Tulane going undefeated in nonconference play.

Memphis has moved up in the polls.

NET......................(Massey Composite)
#4 HOUSTON 13-1 ...........(#4)
#53 SMU 8-3....................(#51)
#68 MEMPHIS 9-5.............(#64)
#73 WICHITA ST 8-4.........(#62)
#91 TULSA 8-6.................(#79)
#94 UCF 3-6.....................(#94)
#104 TEMPLE 4-4..............(#112)
#123 USF 7-5...................(#104)
#124 CINCY 3-7................(#110)
#154 ECU 7-4...................(#142)
#197 TULANE 6-4..............(#176)

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POMEROY:..................(barttorvik.com):........(RPI):

#5 HOUSTON 13-1............(#4)....................(#1)
#51 SMU 8-3...................(#65)...................(#70)
#59 MEMPHIS 9-5............(#51)...................(#104)
#79 WICHITA ST 8-4........(#73)...................(#37)
#85 CINCY 3-7................#104).................(#151)
#88 TULSA 8-6................(#108).................(#58)
#98 UCF 3-6...................(#102).................(#54)
#103 USF 7-5.................(#110).................(#131)
#132 TEMPLE 4-4............(#133).................(#60)
#144 ECU 7-4.................(#160).................(#124)
#202 TULANE 6-4............(#194).................(#178)

Highest ranking indicated in blue.

Lowest ranking indicated in green.

(01-04-2021 09:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  NET Rankings are out: - 1/21 update

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

1-15 / 1-21
6 / 5 Houston
58 / 56 SMU
50 / 59 WSU
82 / 75 UCF
68 / 79 Tulsa
134 / 110 Temple
107 / 112 Memphis
105 / 118 Cincy
119 / 122 South Florida
128 / 129 ECU
170 / 189 Tulane

Two weeks later 2/3/21:

4 Houston (+1 from 1/21)
59 SMU (-3)
62 Memphis (+50)
73 Wichita State (-14)
85 Tulsa (-6)
111 UCF (-36)
125 So FL (-3)
127 Cincinnati (-9)
142 Temple (-32)
169 ECU (-40)
173 Tulane (+16)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

(02-03-2021 05:31 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(01-04-2021 09:42 AM)Stickboy46 Wrote:  NET Rankings are out: - 1/21 update

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

1-15 / 1-21
6 / 5 Houston
58 / 56 SMU
50 / 59 WSU
82 / 75 UCF
68 / 79 Tulsa
134 / 110 Temple
107 / 112 Memphis
105 / 118 Cincy
119 / 122 South Florida
128 / 129 ECU
170 / 189 Tulane

Two weeks later 2/3/21:

4 Houston (+1 from 1/21)
59 SMU (-3)
62 Memphis (+50)
73 Wichita State (-14)
85 Tulsa (-6)
111 UCF (-36)
125 So FL (-3)
127 Cincinnati (-9)
142 Temple (-32)
169 ECU (-40)
173 Tulane (+16)

https://www.ncaa.com/rankings/basketball...t-rankings

Thanks!! I've been slacking

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I've prepared this color-coded chart to summarize how the AAC basketball teams have been ranked over the past few seasons:

Massey Composite Final Rankings (2018-2021)

Team............2017........2018........2019........2020........2021 (current)

Houston..........54...........18.............10...........19...........4

SMU...............14............92 .........117 .........86 ..........57

Memphis.........99...........118 ........56 ...........53 ..........62

Wichita St........16.......... .19........ 64 ...........33 ...........63

Tulsa.............142...........93.........107........... 72.......... 83

UCF................64...........97..........28............117..........98

USF...............292..........266 .......88 ..........127.........106

Cincinnati........17............6 .........22........... 44..........112

Temple..........116...........85 ........57...........119........120

Tulane...........260.........173........287..........182........158

ECU...............177.........279........249 ........215.........161

Massey Composite Final Rankings (2018-2021)

Team............2017........2018........2019........2020........2021 (current)

SMU...............14............92 .........117 .........86 ..........57

Wichita St........16.......... .19........ 64 ...........33 ...........63

Cincinnati........17............6 .........22........... 44..........112

Houston..........54...........18.............10...........19...........4

UCF................64...........97..........28............117..........98

Memphis.........99...........118 ........56 ...........53 ..........62

Temple..........116...........85 ........57...........119........120

Tulsa.............142...........93.........107........... 72.......... 83

ECU...............177.........279........249 ........215.........161

Tulane...........260.........173........287..........182........158

USF...............292..........266 .......88 ..........127.........106

AAC is the #4 ranked RPI conference, yet #7 in NET. It seems like the NET is doing it's job of propping up the cartel exactly as intended.

(02-04-2021 01:22 PM)PirateJP Wrote:  AAC is the #4 ranked RPI conference, yet #7 in NET. It seems like the NET is doing it's job of propping up the cartel exactly as intended.

Our conference is pretty weak.


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(02-04-2021 11:06 AM)jedclampett Wrote:  Massey Composite Final Rankings (2018-2021)

Team............2017........2018........2019........2020........2021 (current)

SMU...............14............92 .........117 .........86 ..........57

Wichita St........16.......... .19........ 64 ...........33 ...........63

Cincinnati........17............6 .........22........... 44..........112

Houston..........54...........18.............10...........19...........4

UCF................64...........97..........28............117..........98

Memphis.........99...........118 ........56 ...........53 ..........62

Temple..........116...........85 ........57...........119........120

Tulsa.............142...........93.........107........... 72.......... 83

ECU...............177.........279........249 ........215.........161

Tulane...........260.........173........287..........182........158

USF...............292..........266 .......88 ..........127.........106

The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

(02-05-2021 10:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

ECU and Tulane went up by about 80(!) total points. The top of the league didn't have a chance to do enough due to COVID and coaching errors.

The league basically compressed itself this year into a tighter group.

(02-05-2021 11:36 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 10:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

ECU and Tulane went up by about 80(!) total points. The top of the league didn't have a chance to do enough due to COVID and coaching errors.

The league basically compressed itself this year into a tighter group.

Or - to put it less kindly - a regression to mediocrity (and yes Memphis is one major reason) .....

(02-05-2021 11:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 11:36 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 10:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

ECU and Tulane went up by about 80(!) total points. The top of the league didn't have a chance to do enough due to COVID and coaching errors.

The league basically compressed itself this year into a tighter group.

Or - to put it less kindly - a regression to mediocrity (and yes Memphis is one major reason) .....

That average was taken with yesterday's rankings. Memphis is #59, probably the highest they have been in awhile, and well below the 102 average.

Now, if you're talking Memphis contributing by not being what they were 7 years ago when they were making the NCAAT regularly, okay, but our "slide to mediocrity" happened years ago, not any time recently. We're actually getting better now, hopefully permanently.

The bottom of the conference is worlds better than it has been. The middle is about the same. The top other than Houston is the worst it has ever been. If the bottom teams can be top 100-150 type teams that's big for the conference, but we desperately need more tournament caliber teams.

(02-05-2021 12:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 11:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 11:36 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 10:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

ECU and Tulane went up by about 80(!) total points. The top of the league didn't have a chance to do enough due to COVID and coaching errors.

The league basically compressed itself this year into a tighter group.

Or - to put it less kindly - a regression to mediocrity (and yes Memphis is one major reason) .....

That average was taken with yesterday's rankings. Memphis is #59, probably the highest they have been in awhile, and well below the 102 average.

Now, if you're talking Memphis contributing by not being what they were 7 years ago when they were making the NCAAT regularly, okay, but our "slide to mediocrity" happened years ago, not any time recently. We're actually getting better now, hopefully permanently.

My point is Memphis has not elevated the AAC from 2017 to date in a manner meeting reasonable expectations. Tubby strangled the program, but there is good reason to believe Penny will place Memphis on a higher plane.

(02-05-2021 12:36 PM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 12:09 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 11:48 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 11:36 AM)oliveandblue Wrote:  

(02-05-2021 10:51 AM)Tiger1983 Wrote:  The AAC's average NET rating is down this year, but not drastically.

2017..........................114
2018..........................113
2019......................... 99
2020.......................... 97
2021 (as of 2/4/21).....102

ECU and Tulane went up by about 80(!) total points. The top of the league didn't have a chance to do enough due to COVID and coaching errors.

The league basically compressed itself this year into a tighter group.

Or - to put it less kindly - a regression to mediocrity (and yes Memphis is one major reason) .....

That average was taken with yesterday's rankings. Memphis is #59, probably the highest they have been in awhile, and well below the 102 average.

Now, if you're talking Memphis contributing by not being what they were 7 years ago when they were making the NCAAT regularly, okay, but our "slide to mediocrity" happened years ago, not any time recently. We're actually getting better now, hopefully permanently.

My point is Memphis has not elevated the AAC from 2017 to date in a manner meeting reasonable expectations. Tubby strangled the program, but there is good reason to believe Penny will place Memphis on a higher plane.

Okay, but we were discussing the 102, which Tubby had nothing to do with. That's why I was confused, lol.

2020 Final NET Rankings - League Average: 95

2020 Final NET Rankings (minus outliers/best & worst team) - League Average: 91

2021 Current NET Rankings - League Average: 103

2021 Current NET Rankings (minus outliers/best & worst team) - League Average: 106

Updated for 2/10 - Memphis is the only team with a big jump up. Tulsa, UCF and Temple all with big drops back since my last update. WSU keeps dropping back even when winning thanks to close games.