(03-24-2021 01:46 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote: And this why Aggie fans remain confident about our place in the WAC; even after the season we just had.
Chris Jans recruiting at another level.
This kid will be ready day one. Instant impact. And he's one of the best rebounding guards coaches have seen.
I can already imagine a starting line-up with McKinney, Rice, and Watson.
Maybe... NMSU is still in the running for Eastern Illinois Grad transfer Marvin Johnson (6'6, 190-lbs). Johnson's final four are NMSU, Arkansas, Mississippi State and Drake. If he signs with NMSU, he will slide right into the 3 spot over Watson.
(03-24-2021 01:46 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote: And this why Aggie fans remain confident about our place in the WAC; even after the season we just had.
Chris Jans recruiting at another level.
This kid will be ready day one. Instant impact. And he's one of the best rebounding guards coaches have seen.
I can already imagine a starting line-up with McKinney, Rice, and Watson.
Maybe... NMSU is still in the running for Eastern Illinois Grad transfer Marvin Johnson (6'6, 190-lbs). Johnson's final four are NMSU, Arkansas, Mississippi State and Drake. If he signs with NMSU, he will slide right into the 3 spot over Watson.
Maybe he can talk Cam'Ron Fletcher into becoming an Aggie. He's in the transfer portal and they were teammates in high school before Cam'Ron went to Kentucky.
The thing is if the rest of the WAC (GCU) is going to up the ante with recruiting, then Jans will just amp up his efforts further. NMSU has a lot of rep in the college basketball world; thanks in apart by NMSU stream rolling the WAC the last 10 years or so. Now NMSU needs to shore up its inside game.
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2021 03:44 PM by NMSUPistolPete.)
Its' the off-season. We got a good recruit. Some Aggie fans are excited. No harm no foul. Stop apologizing for our excitement. If GCU or any other WAC team gets a good player, the board is wide open. No one is stopping them from posting away. If fact, I acknowledge they got a good player since I find myself posting recruits for other WAC programs.
(03-24-2021 05:20 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote: Its' the off-season. We got a good recruit. Some Aggie fans are excited. No harm no foul. Stop apologizing for our excitement. If GCU or any other WAC team gets a good player, the board is wide open. No one is stopping them from posting away. If fact, I acknowledge they got a good player since I find myself posting recruits for other WAC programs.
It's over the top. It's just one recruit. We went on and on about our other 4*'s and most of them didn't even play last season.
And to say Jans is upping his efforts implies he wasn't doing his best job before. Why was he not trying his best before? He was just doing a so-so job and now that GCU beat him, he's upping the ante? Huh?
(This post was last modified: 03-24-2021 05:26 PM by PojoaquePosse.)
(03-24-2021 05:20 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote: Its' the off-season. We got a good recruit. Some Aggie fans are excited. No harm no foul. Stop apologizing for our excitement. If GCU or any other WAC team gets a good player, the board is wide open. No one is stopping them from posting away. If fact, I acknowledge they got a good player since I find myself posting recruits for other WAC programs.
It's over the top. It's just one recruit. We went on and on about our other 4*'s and most of them didn't even play last season.
And to say Jans is upping his efforts implies he wasn't doing his best job before. Why was he not trying his best before? He was just doing a so-so job and now that GCU beat him, he's upping the ante? Huh?
Recruiting is a moving target. If other conference members are playing better, it works to NMSU's benefit. NMSU didn't become good in a vacuum. External forces effect the level of ones effort. UNLV helped NMSU to become a better program. Nevada and Utah State pushed NMSU to excel. Now GCU has set the target higher to win the WAC. If you were a student getting straight As with standard set at 90% then a professor moves the minimum to 95% for an A, it makes you work that much hard if you want to remain a straight A student; less margin for error. And that's the case with recruiting, coaching, etc.
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I don't comment on recruiting all that much. I just happen to know a lot about this kid. I apologize for my excessive optimism and won't let it happen again But I like anyone who can break it open and score 52 in a game this season like McKinney.
(03-24-2021 05:20 PM)NMSUPistolPete Wrote: Its' the off-season. We got a good recruit. Some Aggie fans are excited. No harm no foul. Stop apologizing for our excitement. If GCU or any other WAC team gets a good player, the board is wide open. No one is stopping them from posting away. If fact, I acknowledge they got a good player since I find myself posting recruits for other WAC programs.
It's over the top. It's just one recruit. We went on and on about our other 4*'s and most of them didn't even play last season.
And to say Jans is upping his efforts implies he wasn't doing his best job before. Why was he not trying his best before? He was just doing a so-so job and now that GCU beat him, he's upping the ante? Huh?
Recruiting is a moving target. If other conference members are playing better, it works to NMSU's benefit. NMSU didn't become good in a vacuum. External forces effect the level of ones effort. UNLV helped NMSU to become a better program. Nevada and Utah State pushed NMSU to excel. Now GCU has set the target higher to win the WAC. If you were a student getting straight As with standard set at 90% then a professor moves the minimum to 95% for an A, it makes you work that much hard if you want to remain a straight A student; less margin for error. And that's the case with recruiting, coaching, etc.
Jans recruits players to play "Aggie ball". He doesn't recruit to keep up with the WAC. If he was doing that, who was he keeping up with when he lost 3 measly games over his first 3 years? He had no competition in the WAC. Furthermore, every week, in his presser, he is asked about the upcoming opponent. He always has the same reply "I haven't watched them yet. We will break down tape later in the week". He could care less what GCU is doing or any other team in the WAC.
Jans recruits to his system and feels his system will have his team ready to compete with anyone. He has proven that by beating P5's over and over. He is not building teams to compete with GCU after the one year (out of 4) that GCU actually beat him. You put way too much stock into 2021 and what GCU did.
Just to be clear. Are you comparing the GCU team of 2021 to the UNLV teams of the 80's and 90's that were competing for, and winning, national championships? Having UNLV in the Big West was like having Duke or Kansas or Kentucky. GCU got a 15 seed. And 2021 GCU couldn't sniff the jock straps of the USU and Nevada teams you are referencing.
(03-24-2021 11:30 PM)Todor Wrote: I don't comment on recruiting all that much. I just happen to know a lot about this kid. I apologize for my excessive optimism and won't let it happen again But I like anyone who can break it open and score 52 in a game this season like McKinney.
Todor, it's fine to be excited. Put yourself in the shoes of the posters of this board. They all come here for WAC info on all teams, not to see excessive posts about one team (NMSU). I think that Aggie Alert is the board for excessive posts about NMSU. I suspect you (and me, among others) would not take too kindly if say, GCU posters mentioned a new recruit and then went on and on ranting and raving about the recruit, posting videos about him and just being over the top about him. That's what we NMSU posters do. And that is why we have gotten the ire of a lot of folks on the WAC board.
(03-24-2021 11:30 PM)Todor Wrote: I don't comment on recruiting all that much. I just happen to know a lot about this kid. I apologize for my excessive optimism and won't let it happen again But I like anyone who can break it open and score 52 in a game this season like McKinney.
Todor, it's fine to be excited. Put yourself in the shoes of the posters of this board. They all come here for WAC info on all teams, not to see excessive posts about one team (NMSU). I think that Aggie Alert is the board for excessive posts about NMSU. I suspect you (and me, among others) would not take too kindly if say, GCU posters mentioned a new recruit and then went on and on ranting and raving about the recruit, posting videos about him and just being over the top about him. That's what we NMSU posters do. And that is why we have gotten the ire of a lot of folks on the WAC board.
Appreciate your efforts to understand, PojoaquePosse. I guess at the end of the day, no one else is obligated to do the same. It's just gets a little tiresome when all conversational roads lead to either the assertion/justification of NMSU greatness or downplaying/dismissing the successes of other. For people who only participate on a message board for those specific reasons, conversations like these make perfect sense. For the rest of us, it's exhausting.
(03-24-2021 11:30 PM)Todor Wrote: I don't comment on recruiting all that much. I just happen to know a lot about this kid. I apologize for my excessive optimism and won't let it happen again But I like anyone who can break it open and score 52 in a game this season like McKinney.
Todor, it's fine to be excited. Put yourself in the shoes of the posters of this board. They all come here for WAC info on all teams, not to see excessive posts about one team (NMSU). I think that Aggie Alert is the board for excessive posts about NMSU. I suspect you (and me, among others) would not take too kindly if say, GCU posters mentioned a new recruit and then went on and on ranting and raving about the recruit, posting videos about him and just being over the top about him. That's what we NMSU posters do. And that is why we have gotten the ire of a lot of folks on the WAC board.
Appreciate your efforts to understand, PojoaquePosse. I guess at the end of the day, no one else is obligated to do the same. It's just gets a little tiresome when all conversational roads lead to either the assertion/justification of NMSU greatness or downplaying/dismissing the successes of other. For people who only participate on a message board for those specific reasons, conversations like these make perfect sense. For the rest of us, it's exhausting.
You GCU fans are some sensitive ass fans. That's why you'll never be a rival on the levels of UNM, UTEP, and Utah State. It's why NMSU will never consider you guys a rival. You guys don't know how to act.
(03-24-2021 11:30 PM)Todor Wrote: I don't comment on recruiting all that much. I just happen to know a lot about this kid. I apologize for my excessive optimism and won't let it happen again But I like anyone who can break it open and score 52 in a game this season like McKinney.
Todor, it's fine to be excited. Put yourself in the shoes of the posters of this board. They all come here for WAC info on all teams, not to see excessive posts about one team (NMSU). I think that Aggie Alert is the board for excessive posts about NMSU. I suspect you (and me, among others) would not take too kindly if say, GCU posters mentioned a new recruit and then went on and on ranting and raving about the recruit, posting videos about him and just being over the top about him. That's what we NMSU posters do. And that is why we have gotten the ire of a lot of folks on the WAC board.
Appreciate your efforts to understand, PojoaquePosse. I guess at the end of the day, no one else is obligated to do the same. It's just gets a little tiresome when all conversational roads lead to either the assertion/justification of NMSU greatness or downplaying/dismissing the successes of other. For people who only participate on a message board for those specific reasons, conversations like these make perfect sense. For the rest of us, it's exhausting.
You GCU fans are some sensitive ass fans. That's why you'll never be a rival on the levels of UNM, UTEP, and Utah State. It's why NMSU will never consider you guys a rival. You guys don't know how to act.