Not a word about finances, costs, etc. Does list other affected sports.
I'm missing something. A press release they aren't playing sports. What did you want them to say? What did you think they were going to say?
How about the same press release, also acknowledging that loss of revenue, testing costs and other Covid-19 impacts were a big reason, though secondary. What's that? One extra paragraph? Frazier did that in a letter to ticket holders right after, in a thinly-veiled attempt to let them keep the money (which I support), but it's the pontificating and treating us like children that gets tiring. The whole college football world has been talking about the MAC taking a financial hit for months. Yet they pretend that has nothing to do with their decision, appearing that it is solely for safety and health reasons.
Sorry ... too long. But I have this thing about hypocrisy, and refuse to join the flock of sheeple. Just give me the info straight, and then I can decide whether to contribute to compensate and help out.
(This post was last modified: 08-08-2020 06:45 PM by pvk75.)
Not a word about finances, costs, etc. Does list other affected sports.
I'm missing something. A press release they aren't playing sports. What did you want them to say? What did you think they were going to say?
How about the same press release, also acknowledging that loss of revenue, testing costs and other Covid-19 impacts were a big reason, though secondary. What's that? One extra paragraph? Frazier did that in a letter to ticket holders right after, in a thinly-veiled attempt to let them keep the money (which I support), but it's the pontificating and treating us like children that gets tiring. The whole college football world has been talking about the MAC taking a financial hit for months. Yet they pretend that has nothing to do with their decision, appearing that it is solely for safety and health reasons.
Sorry ... too long. But I have this thing about hypocrisy, and refuse to join the flock of sheeple. Just give me the info straight, and then I can decide whether to contribute to compensate and help out.
That's what I hate about it. It's not that the season was delayed. It's that we are being told it's ONLY about safety. If so, then why did this talk only start escalating after the Big Ten said they were going conference only? And literally every article about it talks about money.
Not a word about finances, costs, etc. Does list other affected sports.
I'm missing something. A press release they aren't playing sports. What did you want them to say? What did you think they were going to say?
How about the same press release, also acknowledging that loss of revenue, testing costs and other Covid-19 impacts were a big reason, though secondary. What's that? One extra paragraph? Frazier did that in a letter to ticket holders right after, in a thinly-veiled attempt to let them keep the money (which I support), but it's the pontificating and treating us like children that gets tiring. The whole college football world has been talking about the MAC taking a financial hit for months. Yet they pretend that has nothing to do with their decision, appearing that it is solely for safety and health reasons.
Sorry ... too long. But I have this thing about hypocrisy, and refuse to join the flock of sheeple. Just give me the info straight, and then I can decide whether to contribute to compensate and help out.
That's what I hate about it. It's not that the season was delayed. It's that we are being told it's ONLY about safety. If so, then why did this talk only start escalating after the Big Ten said they were going conference only? And literally every article about it talks about money.
Over a month ago no one was really playing sports in the United States. Now we have MLB, NBA, and NHL as examples.
I think MLB has shown us in the last month that playing college football is going to be hard to control outbreaks. MLB has far more resources than MAC schools and on Day 3 of the new, shortened season the Marlins had to stop playing games for 10 days and now the Cardinals. Baseball players have ample space to be distant, smaller rosters, and are still having outbreaks. College football has over 100 players and all the staff, trainers, etc. all within close proximity, tackling, and lining up in front of each other on the field.
+1 and no one denies that. Health and safety MUST come first. But pontificating is an insult to us. We're adults, with budgets of our own to manage and Covid-19 impacts to deal with. We're not stupid.
Now, a compliment. Northern had the guts to do what everybody else is waffling over. Credit where it's due.
(This post was last modified: 08-08-2020 07:54 PM by pvk75.)
(08-08-2020 07:47 PM)pvk75 Wrote: +1 and no one denies that. Health and safety MUST come first. But high-and-mighty pontificating is an insult to us. We're adults, many with budgets of our own to manage and Covid-19 impacts to deal with. We're not stupid.
Now, a compliment. Northern had the guts to do what everybody else is waffling over. Credit where it's due.
How is health and safety first and they still have the guys practicing?
Not a word about finances, costs, etc. Does list other affected sports.
I'm missing something. A press release they aren't playing sports. What did you want them to say? What did you think they were going to say?
How about the same press release, also acknowledging that loss of revenue, testing costs and other Covid-19 impacts were a big reason, though secondary. What's that? One extra paragraph? Frazier did that in a letter to ticket holders right after, in a thinly-veiled attempt to let them keep the money (which I support), but it's the pontificating and treating us like children that gets tiring. The whole college football world has been talking about the MAC taking a financial hit for months. Yet they pretend that has nothing to do with their decision, appearing that it is solely for safety and health reasons.
Sorry ... too long. But I have this thing about hypocrisy, and refuse to join the flock of sheeple. Just give me the info straight, and then I can decide whether to contribute to compensate and help out.
That's what I hate about it. It's not that the season was delayed. It's that we are being told it's ONLY about safety. If so, then why did this talk only start escalating after the Big Ten said they were going conference only? And literally every article about it talks about money.
Over a month ago no one was really playing sports in the United States. Now we have MLB, NBA, and NHL as examples.
I think MLB has shown us in the last month that playing college football is going to be hard to control outbreaks. MLB has far more resources than MAC schools and on Day 3 of the new, shortened season the Marlins had to stop playing games for 10 days and now the Cardinals. Baseball players have ample space to be distant, smaller rosters, and are still having outbreaks. College football has over 100 players and all the staff, trainers, etc. all within close proximity, tackling, and lining up in front of each other on the field.
The MAC deferring to spring was the right call in my opinion. I just don't see how football can be played right now. As it is, schools continue to shut down their football programs with Covid outbreaks, and they're not even doing full contact practices yet. And students aren't back on campus yet either. I applaud NIU's leadership in this area, being the only FBS program to step up and do the right thing.
A point that is always brought up in these discussions is that most young people who get infected with Covid do not have serious symptoms. While that is true, it's also true that a few get really serious symptoms, like the lineman at Indiana who's battling heart issues brought on by the virus. We've also heard stories about people suffering permanent lung damage among other things. So the question becomes, is it worth it to sacrifice a few young people to keep the games going. I guess the converse would be is it worth sacrificing all that revenue to protect a small number of people. I think punting to spring is the right call, just my opinion.
(08-08-2020 07:47 PM)pvk75 Wrote: +1 and no one denies that. Health and safety MUST come first. But pontificating is an insult to us. We're adults, with budgets of our own to manage and Covid-19 impacts to deal with. We're not stupid.
Now, a compliment. Northern had the guts to do what everybody else is waffling over. Credit where it's due.
It’s all about the bottom line. MAC schools would lose millions. I laugh when they say they are protecting players. These are 18-22 year old athletes who’s likelihood of getting COVID and being severely ill are incredibly slim. Most show no symptoms at all. And who’s to say the spring will be much better?
A minor irritation ... some sports websites and a few commentaries now credit the Big 10 and say the MAC knew and decided to jump first. Once again, even when something right is done, we become like the late Rodney Dangerfield ("just can't get no respect").