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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Any illusions I had of Cal's being a master tactician and strategist were dispelled for me that night in 2008.

Yeah, he has his strengths. But to defend his ability to adjust in-game, especially in Xs and Os fashion, is far fetched - it's not his strong suit. Those that try to defend it end up looking foolish. I usually don't even waste my time pointing it out anymore.

He's good at marketing, recruiting, engaging fan base, keeping his teams in national spotlight, maintaining control of his team, keeping his team on the same page and getting the attention of the players (motivating). He's made millions using these skills. I won't say he's a good Xs and Os coach. But he puts the most talented team on the floor and he gets the job done.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 12:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Any illusions I had of Cal's being a master tactician and strategist were dispelled for me that night in 2008.

Yeah, he has his strengths. But to defend his ability to adjust in-game, especially in Xs and Os fashion, is far fetched - it's not his strong suit. Those that try to defend it end up looking foolish. I usually don't even waste my time pointing it out anymore.

He's good at marketing, recruiting, engaging fan base, keeping his teams in national spotlight, maintaining control of his team, keeping his team on the same page and getting the attention of the players (motivating). He's made millions using these skills. I won't say he's a good Xs and Os coach. But he puts the most talented team on the floor and he gets the job done.

Yep.
I wonder how much of his recruiting success is based on being at Kentucky.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 09:44 AM)Hoots Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 06:26 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  Still wanted that foul on the last KU possession in regulation as they were coming up court (with the Calipari deer-in-the-headlights looks) & our missed FTs.........SMH. But couldn't watch the OT.

That foul really wasn't as obvious as it should've been. In fact, if that was Cal's tactic, you tell the officials what your intentions are so that you get the call.

When Chalmers let it go, I knew it was game over. Not just OT, but the whole shootin' match.

IF Kansas is down 1 point in the same situation, the crooked refs call that foul 100 out of 100 times. 3 of Dorsey's fouls, including his 5th, involved a lot less contact than that.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
I didn't have an appreciation for it as much as I should have when I watched it originally; but after seeing the boxscore and watching it again at least 10 times since then, I got an appreciation for what a terrific game Dozier had. It always gets lost with everything else that happened. He was awesome.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 01:00 PM)holyterror Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 12:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Any illusions I had of Cal's being a master tactician and strategist were dispelled for me that night in 2008.

Yeah, he has his strengths. But to defend his ability to adjust in-game, especially in Xs and Os fashion, is far fetched - it's not his strong suit. Those that try to defend it end up looking foolish. I usually don't even waste my time pointing it out anymore.

He's good at marketing, recruiting, engaging fan base, keeping his teams in national spotlight, maintaining control of his team, keeping his team on the same page and getting the attention of the players (motivating). He's made millions using these skills. I won't say he's a good Xs and Os coach. But he puts the most talented team on the floor and he gets the job done.

Yep.
I wonder how much of his recruiting success is based on being at Kentucky.

Some, but very little. He was setup to do something similar here. On the flip side, his predecessor at UK couldn't recruit at that level at UK.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 08:49 PM)Stammers Wrote:  I didn't have an appreciation for it as much as I should have when I watched it originally; but after seeing the boxscore and watching it again at least 10 times since then, I got an appreciation for what a terrific game Dozier had. It always gets lost with everything else that happened. He was awesome.

Yes he was...great 2nd half. I always thought CDR should have passed it to him instead of going for the layup.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-23-2020 12:15 PM)gusrob Wrote:  
(03-23-2020 11:04 AM)holyterror Wrote:  Any illusions I had of Cal's being a master tactician and strategist were dispelled for me that night in 2008.

Yeah, he has his strengths. But to defend his ability to adjust in-game, especially in Xs and Os fashion, is far fetched - it's not his strong suit. Those that try to defend it end up looking foolish. I usually don't even waste my time pointing it out anymore.

He's good at marketing, recruiting, engaging fan base, keeping his teams in national spotlight, maintaining control of his team, keeping his team on the same page and getting the attention of the players (motivating). He's made millions using these skills. I won't say he's a good Xs and Os coach. But he puts the most talented team on the floor and he gets the job done.

I would add game planning to that list. John's best success has always been when John Robic works with him to develop a game plan. John is added to that list of coaches (Tom Izzo, Bruce Pearl) that if you give them a week to prepare they are tough to beat. If you can crack the game plan, you will have success.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
Everyone pins it on free throws, but Kansas stole an inbound pass after a scored bucket. If that doesn't happen, ball game, banner hanging in rafters.
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(03-22-2020 11:27 AM)memphishorn Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 11:03 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
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(03-21-2020 04:09 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  i always hated that the officials changed the halftime score

based on a reporter

first time i had seen that and i cant remember seeing it since

and in a national championship game

I don't remember that, what?

Billy packer told them during a TV timeout to check a 3 by Rose because his foot was on the line.

Actually it was Jim Gray who was a sideline reporter. I’ve hated him ever since.

Yep, he was always an egotistical ass. I will say it was a 2 pointer...BUT....keep your stinking nose out of business that doesn't concern you
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2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
(03-22-2020 02:35 PM)uskjtc02 Wrote:  Watched til end of regulation. Couldn’t watch anymore.


Me too. Still hurts.


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(03-26-2020 02:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Everyone pins it on free throws, but Kansas stole an inbound pass after a scored bucket. If that doesn't happen, ball game, banner hanging in rafters closet.

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(03-26-2020 02:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Everyone pins it on free throws, but Kansas stole an inbound pass after a scored bucket. If that doesn't happen, ball game, banner hanging in rafters.

But........the kid who stole the ball was also shown to have stepped out of bounds.
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(03-26-2020 04:42 PM)gotigers1 Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 11:27 AM)memphishorn Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 11:03 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  
(03-22-2020 10:36 AM)jgardne Wrote:  
(03-21-2020 04:09 PM)Unionman76 Wrote:  i always hated that the officials changed the halftime score

based on a reporter

first time i had seen that and i cant remember seeing it since

and in a national championship game

I don't remember that, what?

Billy packer told them during a TV timeout to check a 3 by Rose because his foot was on the line.

Actually it was Jim Gray who was a sideline reporter. I’ve hated him ever since.

Yep, he was always an egotistical ass. I will say it was a 2 pointer...BUT....keep your stinking nose out of business that doesn't concern you

My dislike of Gray goes back to his ambush interview of Pete Rose at the 1999 All-Century baseball team. Wrong time, wrong place.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
It was Nance
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The 1985 championship was on today. Should have been played with a shot clock and should have been Memphis State playing G'town.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
Keith Lee outplayed Ewing big time in the 83 game. He had like 24 and 15 I think in the Tiger win.
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(03-26-2020 02:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Everyone pins it on free throws, but Kansas stole an inbound pass after a scored bucket. If that doesn't happen, ball game, banner hanging in rafters.

Kansas did NOT steal an inbound pass. The Kansas player intercepted the pass with his foot out of bounds; which POS Ed Hightower missed. You are right when you say that that blown call cost us the championship.

From up 7 shooting free throws and taking at least another 10-15 seconds off the clock, to only up 4. As much as a 5 point swing from the blown call by POS Ed Hightower.
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(03-29-2020 07:58 AM)Hoots Wrote:  
(03-26-2020 02:51 PM)Tiger46 Wrote:  Everyone pins it on free throws, but Kansas stole an inbound pass after a scored bucket. If that doesn't happen, ball game, banner hanging in rafters.

But........the kid who stole the ball was also shown to have stepped out of bounds.

Not only did he step out of bound with 1/2 his foot; the referee was staring right at it.
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RE: 2008 National Championship airs Sunday on CBS
NCAA said it didn't happen, so Chalmers never hit no 3
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