(01-18-2020 03:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:13 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Congress were so inclined they can cap athletic spending. Exceed the cap, lose funds.

Would Congress pick a cap of X dollars? Maybe because that would be dumb.

If the inclination were to exist to cap, the smart way would be a cap of a certain amount per full time equivalency scholarship awarded. That would provide incentive to have a lot of sports and lot of scholarship athletes.

The problem the Feds have is that athletics with Title 9 only worked because football/basketball money could easily pay the freight. If your going to require that football/basketball be run like a business---then you cant require the schools to operate money losing programs. Its either a business or its an amateur student athlete competition. It cant be both. As the sport is pressed on the legalities of its current structure----we have moved t the point where its going to have to be one or the other (either a business or a amateur student athletic competition). The only other options is for government to create a special legal anti-trust envelope specifically for college athletics that would allow it to continue to exist in something similar to its current form.

I don't see why the feds can't land on some middle ground.

What would happen if they require Fedaided schools to continue meeting Title IX while also requiring they set no compensation caps for athletes in revenue sports? I expect that that schools that want to compete for top talent in revenue sports but that cannot also fund excess non-revenue sports would simply drop those excess sports.

Is a middle ground fair to athletes in revenue sports? No, not really. They'd still have to forego some of their market value to subsidize Title IX beneficiaries. But it would certainly be a better deal for them than what they get now, and due in no small part to the fact that schools would be less gung ho toward the gold-plating of facilities and the over-enrichment of staff.

...Perhaps one day schools will be forbidden to sponsor sports altogether. Of course, private enterprise would then quickly set in. Let the schools then lease or sell their property to the highest bidder and be done with it.

(01-05-2020 08:11 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  Some have mentioned caps in leagues like the NFL, NBA, etc.

To my knowledge, no league has a cap that applies to coaching salaries, only to players.

If the coaches don't form a union that can be bargained with, caps have no legal standings.

True which makes a coaching salary cap illegal. But the NCAA can make a football expense cap legal for its members. If the schools want to put all that money into coaching salary’s and have their players wear hand me down uni’s so be it. A football and basketball budget cap is the way to implement cost control.

(01-18-2020 03:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:13 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Congress were so inclined they can cap athletic spending. Exceed the cap, lose funds.

Would Congress pick a cap of X dollars? Maybe because that would be dumb.

If the inclination were to exist to cap, the smart way would be a cap of a certain amount per full time equivalency scholarship awarded. That would provide incentive to have a lot of sports and lot of scholarship athletes.

The problem the Feds have is that athletics with Title 9 only worked because football/basketball money could easily pay the freight. If your going to require that football/basketball be run like a business---then you cant require the schools to operate money losing programs. Its either a business or its an amateur student athlete competition. It cant be both. As the sport is pressed on the legalities of its current structure----we have moved t the point where its going to have to be one or the other (either a business or a amateur student athletic competition). The only other options is for government to create a special legal anti-trust envelope specifically for college athletics that would allow it to continue to exist in something similar to its current form.

You're going to get so many angry tweets from Polly and Sarah for cancelling their field hockey. Like 10 moms from the team were going to watch the next game you know.

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(01-18-2020 03:26 AM)Attackcoog Wrote:  

(01-07-2020 10:13 AM)arkstfan Wrote:  If Congress were so inclined they can cap athletic spending. Exceed the cap, lose funds.

Would Congress pick a cap of X dollars? Maybe because that would be dumb.

If the inclination were to exist to cap, the smart way would be a cap of a certain amount per full time equivalency scholarship awarded. That would provide incentive to have a lot of sports and lot of scholarship athletes.

The problem the Feds have is that athletics with Title 9 only worked because football/basketball money could easily pay the freight. If your going to require that football/basketball be run like a business---then you cant require the schools to operate money losing programs. Its either a business or its an amateur student athlete competition. It cant be both. As the sport is pressed on the legalities of its current structure----we have moved t the point where its going to have to be one or the other (either a business or a amateur student athletic competition). The only other options is for government to create a special legal anti-trust envelope specifically for college athletics that would allow it to continue to exist in something similar to its current form.

It really didn't. Except for maybe 20 schools. Its only the last 7 or 8 years that most of the P5 is making money. Everyone else still loses.