(05-28-2019 03:31 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 01:14 PM)HOF 08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 11:51 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 11:24 AM)HOF 08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 10:22 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Does a winning season get Monty an extension? Gino is one of the all time greats at NIU. To steal a phrase, is this like putting "lipstick on a pig"?

I hope not ( please STF) IMO Monty and NIU would be better off going their separate ways just my opinion. Things can change with transfers-new recruits etc but after next year it could get ugly. Seems like we didn’t get much out of this last years Fr+ Soph classes.

Not true.

Henry-Hays was a starter. Daow was a regular off the bench. Hankerson was a regular off the bench and started a couple of games. And Richie played a lot off the bench (more so later in the year) and possibly would have been in line to start next season had he not decided to transfer.

They got a ton out of the sophomores and freshmen considering the starting 5 was 2 seniors, 2 juniors, and a sophomore, with major minutes coming from 3 underclassmen (and a junior) and a freshman whom many think will be better than decent (Justin Lee).

If you want to think they got a lot of production from the Fr-So class have at it. Henry-Hayes, Hankerson and Daow combined to ave 7.9 points per game. Put them as your Jr-Sr classes after next year and you think that’s a lot returning good luck. I stand by my statement.

I never said they got production. If you look closer, I clearly said they got "minutes". Minutes =/= Production. Nevertheless, German, Bradley, Thorpe and James took 68% of the shots last year. Plus, the team was one of the higher scoring teams in the nation. They didn't need the underclassmen to step up. There wasn't room for it, tbh.

Needless to say, a team with a Jr Sr class of Mateen, Henry-Hays, Daow, Scott, Johnson, Hankerson, and Lee along with sophomores Cochran and Cole...is that a good core or group to have?

Honestly, I don't know. I do know that Lee could be the main attraction of that group. Possibly Cole, but I really don't know. I didn't know how good German was going to be either.

Either way. That is not a "bare cupboard" situation. There are a lot of role players plus a couple that could be the leaders of the scoring aspect.

I do know they'll have to probably get another JUCO big man. They'll be all out after this season. That is a concern. They have inside size, but they don't have a center. That concerns me. With that said, I still don't see the bare cupboard.

I guess time will tell. Track record of last two coach has been abysmal. We seem to recruit against DII teams for lightly recruited players. The the ones with potential seem to leave. Looking at talent on this team, don't get a warm a fuzzy feeling.

(05-28-2019 03:31 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 01:14 PM)HOF 08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 11:51 AM)Big Red Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 11:24 AM)HOF 08 Wrote:  

(05-28-2019 10:22 AM)klake87 Wrote:  Does a winning season get Monty an extension? Gino is one of the all time greats at NIU. To steal a phrase, is this like putting "lipstick on a pig"?

I hope not ( please STF) IMO Monty and NIU would be better off going their separate ways just my opinion. Things can change with transfers-new recruits etc but after next year it could get ugly. Seems like we didn’t get much out of this last years Fr+ Soph classes.

Not true.

Henry-Hays was a starter. Daow was a regular off the bench. Hankerson was a regular off the bench and started a couple of games. And Richie played a lot off the bench (more so later in the year) and possibly would have been in line to start next season had he not decided to transfer.

They got a ton out of the sophomores and freshmen considering the starting 5 was 2 seniors, 2 juniors, and a sophomore, with major minutes coming from 3 underclassmen (and a junior) and a freshman whom many think will be better than decent (Justin Lee).

If you want to think they got a lot of production from the Fr-So class have at it. Henry-Hayes, Hankerson and Daow combined to ave 7.9 points per game. Put them as your Jr-Sr classes after next year and you think that’s a lot returning good luck. I stand by my statement.

I never said they got production. If you look closer, I clearly said they got "minutes". Minutes =/= Production. Nevertheless, German, Bradley, Thorpe and James took 68% of the shots last year. Plus, the team was one of the higher scoring teams in the nation. They didn't need the underclassmen to step up. There wasn't room for it, tbh.

Needless to say, a team with a Jr Sr class of Mateen, Henry-Hays, Daow, Scott, Johnson, Hankerson, and Lee along with sophomores Cochran and Cole...is that a good core or group to have?

Honestly, I don't know. I do know that Lee could be the main attraction of that group. Possibly Cole, but I really don't know. I didn't know how good German was going to be either.

Either way. That is not a "bare cupboard" situation. There are a lot of role players plus a couple that could be the leaders of the scoring aspect.

I do know they'll have to probably get another JUCO big man. They'll be all out after this season. That is a concern. They have inside size, but they don't have a center. That concerns me. With that said, I still don't see the bare cupboard.

I was talking production not minutes so they got some minutes and little production you win on production not minutes. You even said the upperclassmen got most of the minutes and production. IMO that team you listed for 2 years from now will be just more of what we’ve had and most people aren’t happy with that. You can have a different opinion that’s fine. Time will tell.

(05-28-2019 01:39 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  I am glad he is back.
I bet Monty goes super light on the non conference schedule since he will need 20 plus wins to beg for an extension.

He didn’t last year even though he could have. They had a tough non conference schedule. I’d like to see a good mix of games.

I would be loading up on soft non conferences every year. Play 1-2 money games and then just play turds

Non-conference is 12 or 13 games. I believe for NIU a better plan is to play 4-6 power conference teams and teams of that nature. It will help with recruiting even if you lose and eventually you would get better and win one of those games.