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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-10-2018 05:14 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (01-10-2018 05:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (01-10-2018 05:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.
Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.
Obama was a great president. Just look at his approval rating.
He was a community organizer. He knew how to work with people. The republicans vowed not to work with him no matter what. They even walked away from their own legislation to oppose him.
Trump has never worked a day in his life. As far as working with both parties, I welcome it. I'm actually hoping that happens so something can actually get done in Congress for once.
I'm not holding my breathe.
I don't think Obama was a horrible president, but not close to great.
Trump has worked AND he has some real qualities that you want in a leader. His problem isn't a lack of good qualities, it's a match in bad personality issues.
w/o question....
it's the conundrum vs. #henceDJT
I take the latter every day and the eighth one....
the macro importance is how he generates interest and pushes agenda.....
like (carter), ZERO had none of those qualities......
I'll never back a pacifist......and I'm a centrist (albeit a crazy one)
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-10-2018 05:07 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (01-10-2018 05:02 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote: With Obama it was, he gives great speeches and has a magnetic presence, therefore he will be a great president. But being president isn't about being magnetic and making great speeches, it's about working with people to get things done. Obama had never done that in his life, so he had no idea how to do it.
Trump has spent his life doing that. That's the skill set developers must have. I think that's why he scares democrats so much. If they can keep him preoccupied with the collusion/obstruction charade, they may be able to keep him boxed in. But if he can work with both parties to get a couple of things done, this could get interesting.
Obama was a great president. Just look at his approval rating.
He was a community organizer. He knew how to work with people. The republicans vowed not to work with him no matter what. They even walked away from their own legislation to oppose him.
Trump has never worked a day in his life. As far as working with both parties, I welcome it. I'm actually hoping that happens so something can actually get done in Congress for once.
I'm not holding my breathe.
Per
http://news.gallup.com/poll/116677/Presi...rends.aspx
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Overall averages
Dates in office Average approval rating
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Harry Truman April 1945-January 1953 45.4
Dwight Eisenhower January 1953-January 1961 65.0
John Kennedy January 1961-November 1963 70.1
Lyndon Johnson November 1963-January 1969 55.1
Richard Nixon January 1969-August 1974 49.0
Gerald Ford August 1974-January 1977 47.2
Jimmy Carter January 1977-January 1981 45.5
Ronald Reagan January 1981-January 1989 52.8
George H.W. Bush January 1989-January 1993 60.9
Bill Clinton January 1993-January 2001 55.1
George W. Bush January 2001-January 2009 49.4
Barack Obama January 2009-January 2017 47.9
Obama doesn't make the great list based upon those data.
He was a community organizer. He knew how to rouse the rabble. He didn't know how to work cooperatively with the other side. He was a smug, arrogant, condescending a-hole to republicans. So he didn't get much cooperation in return. Hell, he was such a flaming a-hole that he couldn't even get his own party to work with him.
Trump was a developer. Developing a piece of property probably requires more interactions with more people with highly differing agendas than almost any other endeavour. So far, democrats have made it pretty clear they have no intention of working with him. As I've said, I think they're afraid that if they actually try working with him, they'll get things done. And they don't want that.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-10-2018 04:28 PM)nomad2u2001 Wrote: (01-10-2018 04:05 PM)Old Blue Wrote: Let's see her go through a grueling primary race like President Trump did. Maybe then I would have some respect for her political abilities. Unfortunately that's not how the Democrats work. She most likely will be quasi -appointed to the detriment of the honest Democratic candidates.
Grueling? The MSM helped him with the process by entertaining his treatment of his opponents during the primary. The only ones who tried to make it grueling was fox.
He waded through a field of 16.Try and sugar coat it as much as you want. For a political newbie it was quite a feat. Your opinion notwithstanding.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-11-2018 08:46 AM)usmbacker Wrote:
Oprah getting an early taste of what she will be in for. I don't think she wants any part of it.
Quote:Internationally renowned musician Seal trashed Oprah Winfrey on social media just days after her widely praised speech at the Golden Globe Awards on sexual misconduct in Hollywood, calling her a “part of the problem for decades.”
In a fiery Instagram post Wednesday, Seal republished a pair of photos of Winfrey with disgraced movie mogul Harvey Weinstein, including one in which she appears to be kissing the producer’s cheek. Overlayed on the photos, in all-caps, is the text: “When you have been part of the problem for decades, but suddenly they all think you are the solution.”
Seal added a sarcastic comment to the right of the photographs that suggested Winfrey knew Weinstein was mistreating women.
“Oh I forgot, that's right.....you'd heard the rumours but you had no idea he was actually serially assaulting young stary-eyed actresses who in turn had no idea what they were getting into. My bad,” Seal wrote.
Keep Reading Here...
Sure glad it was a black dude that did this. Keeps the "it was racially motivated" crowd from rearing it's ugly head......
IMO, if she were to decide to run for the office, she would be a formidable candidate.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-11-2018 09:13 AM)Crebman Wrote: (01-11-2018 08:46 AM)usmbacker Wrote:
Oprah getting an early taste of what she will be in for. I don't think she wants any part of it.
Quote:Internationally renowned musician Seal trashed Oprah Winfrey on social media just days after her widely praised speech at the Golden Globe Awards on sexual misconduct in Hollywood, calling her a “part of the problem for decades.”
In a fiery Instagram post Wednesday, Seal republished a pair of photos of Winfrey with disgraced movie mogul Harvey Weinstein, including one in which she appears to be kissing the producer’s cheek. Overlayed on the photos, in all-caps, is the text: “When you have been part of the problem for decades, but suddenly they all think you are the solution.”
Seal added a sarcastic comment to the right of the photographs that suggested Winfrey knew Weinstein was mistreating women.
“Oh I forgot, that's right.....you'd heard the rumours but you had no idea he was actually serially assaulting young stary-eyed actresses who in turn had no idea what they were getting into. My bad,” Seal wrote.
Keep Reading Here...
Sure glad it was a black dude that did this. Keeps the "it was racially motivated" crowd from rearing it's ugly head......
IMO, if she were to decide to run for the office, she would be a formidable candidate.
even if cannabis news network fed her the questions beforehand, she would get eaten alive in any debate of any kind....
I never underestimate an opponent, but it would be too easy to squash her on policy unless she came with a conservative like minded fiscal platform (which is plausible).......only then, would I begin to take her seriously.....
until I see an agenda based platform, I'll keep her on hold........
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
Good for Seal for stating the obvious.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-09-2018 12:50 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: (01-09-2018 12:45 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (01-09-2018 12:35 AM)Marc Mensa Wrote: Old white people who can’t understand what’s she is saying wouldn’t vote for a black female anyway.
Now you are showing your true colors.
I’m just telling the truth. Anyone who wants to be offended by that comment wouldn’t vote for Oprah anyway.
Sorry, if she runs as a Liberal, I would Never vote for Her.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
Oprah wouldn't stand a chance in any of the debates or fleshing out comprehensive policy strategies to enact if she became president. Obama was woefully unqualified to be president, but he at least had some experience in local and state politics plus a term as a U.S. senator. What's Oprah's claims to being an effective leader - telling us which works of fiction are great and dieting tips?
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-11-2018 09:58 AM)miko33 Wrote: Oprah wouldn't stand a chance in any of the debates or fleshing out comprehensive policy strategies to enact if she became president. Obama was woefully unqualified to be president, but he at least had some experience in local and state politics plus a term as a U.S. senator. What's Oprah's claims to being an effective leader - telling us which works of fiction are great and dieting tips?
She might offer to give Her audience an Oprah phone though.
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-11-2018 09:58 AM)miko33 Wrote: Oprah wouldn't stand a chance in any of the debates or fleshing out comprehensive policy strategies to enact if she became president. Obama was woefully unqualified to be president, but he at least had some experience in local and state politics plus a term as a U.S. senator. What's Oprah's claims to being an effective leader - telling us which works of fiction are great and dieting tips?
she ranks right there with marie osmond, dr phil, and (toss in any other goon as one sees fit).....
again, I'll never underestimate the power of mass stupidity.....
apparently, Seal is now catching all kinds of shite for his tweets against Okra....
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RE: So the Dems new hope is Oprah Winfrey......
(01-11-2018 09:27 AM)UofMstateU Wrote: Good for Seal for stating the obvious.
And now Seal goes full cuck, and is butthurt about Fox News reporting this. (Even though most other major networks also reported it.)
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/201...ories.html
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