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RE: NTR- Tom Crean OUT at Indiana
(03-17-2017 12:16 PM)VinnieVegas Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 12:13 PM)passat25 Wrote:  The timing of Memphis basketball smh.. Crean would have been PERFECT at Memphis.. Young and energetic coach.

Who was actually available besides Marshall last year??? Before we hired Tubby Smith.

About 20 up and comers

I guess I meant WOW hire coaches...
03-17-2017 12:52 PM
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Plus he jumps around a lot when he coaches--Crean I mean looks engaged like he's not on downer meds.

I watched parts of the GT game
03-17-2017 12:53 PM
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RE: NTR- Tom Crean OUT at Indiana
(03-17-2017 12:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 12:28 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  Pastner's young and a hell of a lot more energetic than Crean. Young and energetic don't mean ****.

Yeah, but Crean's been to a Final Four and 3 S16s.

So, why did Indiana fire him? Not young and energetic enough?
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(03-17-2017 12:53 PM)snowtiger Wrote:  Plus he jumps around a lot when he coaches--Crean I mean looks engaged like he's not on downer meds.

I watched parts of the GT game

Bunny Rabbits jump around a lot, doesn't mean they would be good bassetball coaches.
03-17-2017 01:24 PM
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RE: NTR- Tom Crean OUT at Indiana
Crean is a solid coach like Tubbs but unwilling to get hands dirty. Wouldn't cut it here either.
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RE: NTR- Tom Crean OUT at Indiana
(03-17-2017 01:22 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 12:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 12:28 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  Pastner's young and a hell of a lot more energetic than Crean. Young and energetic don't mean ****.

Yeah, but Crean's been to a Final Four and 3 S16s.

So, why did Indiana fire him? Not young and energetic enough?

Because the flavor of expectations?
03-17-2017 01:40 PM
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(03-17-2017 07:01 AM)tigergg Wrote:  Greg Marshall, I think this is the job he takes..

Yep.
03-17-2017 02:17 PM
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y'all are totally discounting the Alford rumors......?

http://www.sbnation.com/college-basketba...cla-bruins


Steve Alford is a legend at Indiana. That’s not an exaggeration. From 1983-1987, Alford was the point guard who powered the golden era of the program under Bobby Knight. As a senior, Alford led the Hoosiers to the 1987 national championship. The program hasn’t won it all since.
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The AD made an indirect appeal to Alford. "Hoosier for life!" He's their first choice.

Crean is getting fired because he's landed 1 of the last 15 blue chips from the state of Indiana. I thought we wanted a local recruiter?
03-17-2017 07:07 PM
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Man are some of you obsessed.

Flattering.
03-18-2017 07:43 AM
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(03-17-2017 12:35 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  
(03-17-2017 12:28 PM)BuccTiger Wrote:  Pastner's young and a hell of a lot more energetic than Crean. Young and energetic don't mean ****.

Yeah, but Crean's been to a Final Four and 3 S16s.

Final Four was due to Wade. 3 S16s with Indiana in 9 years. Like I said in the original post, Crean was given a 3 year honeymoon with IU, so 3 S16s in 6 years is good, but not good enough at a program that is probably top 8 or so:

Duke, UNC, UCLA, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisville and IU. Syracuse has actually had better success than IU in the last 25 years, but Syracuse doesn't have the local HS talent that Indiana does.

Of the schools listed above, I would think pretty much any coach who only went to the S16s 50% of the time would get fired.
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He recruited Wade, right?

We gonna take away Dean's title b/c of MJ?

How about Boeheim b/c of Melo?

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(03-18-2017 01:08 PM)HoopDreams Wrote:  He recruited Wade, right?

We gonna take away Dean's title b/c of MJ?

How about Boeheim b/c of Melo?

Jeebus

In the 13 years after MJ left, Smith had 4 Sweet 16s, 2 Elite Eights, 3 Final Fours and 1 NCAA title. And made the tourney every year.

Boeheim had an extremely good resume before and after Melo. In his first five years after 'Melo, Boeheim had a similar post-Wade, Crean record of 1 S16, 2 NITs and 2 NCAA tournament appearaces. Alas, Boeheim had made the Final Four before Melo.

Crean had 5 seasons at Marquette post-Wade:

He NEVER got to a Sweet Sixteen at Marquette, post-Wade.

In his 5 post-Wade seasons: 2 NITs, 3 NCAAs tourneys, with a grand total of 1 post-Wade, Big Dance win. Or a 1-3 post-Wade NCAA tourney record at Marquette.

My point is this: Crean is a guy with great timing and above-average coaching skills. I very much think Indiana was right in canning him.
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1 blue chip out of the last 15. At IU. In the state of INDIANA. That's a problem.
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Good hire
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About 4 mill per year
Is that what it takes these days
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http://www.cbssports.com/college-basketb...tom-crean/
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