The4thOption
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statefanatic
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RE: Attendance?
Every school lies!
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GoApps70
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RE: Attendance?
Liberty 2001 (21,056 Reported Attendance - 10,288 Actual Difference of 48.86%)
was quite a difference. Why go back so far? Or were these each schools
largest differences on schools they reported on.
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SkullyMaroo
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RE: Attendance?
Strangely enough, USA has under reported attendance for many a game. I'm pretty sure this past season we reported only scanned tickets due to NCAA's watchful eye on our attendance (due to them not recognizing Ladd Stadium's counting method, although accurate). To make matters worse, the ticket scanners broke during our first game last season, and we weren't able to count students. The count was off by several thousand for that game. I wouldn't expect this to always be the case with USA, but it is what it is.
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GoApps70
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 08:14 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Strangely enough, USA has under reported attendance for many a game. I'm pretty sure this past season we reported only scanned tickets due to NCAA's watchful eye on our attendance (due to them not recognizing Ladd Stadium's counting method, although accurate). To make matters worse, the ticket scanners broke during our first game last season, and we weren't able to count students. The count was off by several thousand for that game. I wouldn't expect this to always be the case with USA, but it is what it is.
Have noticed you hear about ticket scanners breaking from many posters at a lot of schools. Where do they get these machines? Cracker jack boxes?
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SkullyMaroo
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 08:25 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: (04-10-2014 08:14 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Strangely enough, USA has under reported attendance for many a game. I'm pretty sure this past season we reported only scanned tickets due to NCAA's watchful eye on our attendance (due to them not recognizing Ladd Stadium's counting method, although accurate). To make matters worse, the ticket scanners broke during our first game last season, and we weren't able to count students. The count was off by several thousand for that game. I wouldn't expect this to always be the case with USA, but it is what it is.
Have noticed you hear about ticket scanners breaking from many posters at a lot of schools. Where do they get these machines? Cracker jack boxes?
I don't recall hearing other schools talking about having broken scanners. I know it was brought up about USA a few times (by both USA and other posters). But to answer your question, I have no clue where the scanners came from. After the first game last year the attendance seemed to be accurate. But again, we were only reporting scanned tickets. Hopefully this is a non-issue going forward.
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panama
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RE: Attendance?
Caveat 1
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GoApps70
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 08:34 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: (04-10-2014 08:25 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: (04-10-2014 08:14 AM)SkullyMaroo Wrote: Strangely enough, USA has under reported attendance for many a game. I'm pretty sure this past season we reported only scanned tickets due to NCAA's watchful eye on our attendance (due to them not recognizing Ladd Stadium's counting method, although accurate). To make matters worse, the ticket scanners broke during our first game last season, and we weren't able to count students. The count was off by several thousand for that game. I wouldn't expect this to always be the case with USA, but it is what it is.
Have noticed you hear about ticket scanners breaking from many posters at a lot of schools. Where do they get these machines? Cracker jack boxes?
I don't recall hearing other schools talking about having broken scanners. I know it was brought up about USA a few times (by both USA and other posters). But to answer your question, I have no clue where the scanners came from. After the first game last year the attendance seemed to be accurate. But again, we were only reporting scanned tickets. Hopefully this is a non-issue going forward.
Wasn't really asking Skully, was mainly rhetorical. Have noticed at least a couple of dozen posters, over the years, saying their scanners broke down on game day, including at App State a couple of times. They must not be built too well or there is something people do to cause them to mess up.
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NCeagle
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RE: Attendance?
I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
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statefanatic
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
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Buzz Lightyear Lite
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RE: Attendance?
Honestly, the worst I have seen on consistent basis is UAB....terrible difference between truth and fact....18,000 when there is 4500.....26000 when there is 10,200....we at Troy have had late season game discrepancies too but for the most part percentages for a good many schools have been fudged.....UAB on the other hand and I guess USF have been out right lying...But the award goes to UAB....you should never triple your attendance on a consistent basis....or quadruple...3 homeless people 6 students who are girl friends 4 drunk fratboys 53 parents 2 administrators 12 cops and 21 event staff do not......does not equal.....12000 people. Math must be a huge Minor at UAB.
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TheRevSWT
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RE: Attendance?
I want to say it was San Jose State that changed their reporting from tickets sold to actual butts in the seats like 2-3 years ago.
It was shocking to see the difference. They went from announced attendance of like 25k to announced attendance of 8k.
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panama
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 09:20 AM)Buzz Lightyear Lite Wrote: Honestly, the worst I have seen on consistent basis is UAB....terrible difference between truth and fact....18,000 when there is 4500.....26000 when there is 10,200....we at Troy have had late season game discrepancies too but for the most part percentages for a good many schools have been fudged.....UAB on the other hand and I guess USF have been out right lying...But the award goes to UAB....you should never triple your attendance on a consistent basis....or quadruple...3 homeless people 6 students who are girl friends 4 drunk fratboys 53 parents 2 administrators 12 cops and 21 event staff do not......does not equal.....12000 people. Math must be a huge Minor at UAB.
^^^^^ Not Saying This Because He is Rival Fan ^^^^^
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NCeagle
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 09:10 AM)statefanatic Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
what does that have to do with actual attendance v reported attendance?
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GoApps70
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 09:10 AM)statefanatic Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
If they wanted football so bad and started it would think they would have thought they would have more people attending. Money drops will not solve the problem. Georgia Southern coming to town might. Especially if the Georgia State fans get stirred up enough to really care and push it with their friends.
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JoeJag
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 07:18 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: Liberty 2001 (21,056 Reported Attendance - 10,288 Actual Difference of 48.86%)
was quite a difference. Why go back so far? Or were these each schools
largest differences on schools they reported on.
The SBC doesn't need to add fibbers.
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NCeagle
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 10:39 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:10 AM)statefanatic Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
If they wanted football so bad and started it would think they would have thought they would have more people attending. Money drops will not solve the problem. Georgia Southern coming to town might. Especially if the Georgia State fans get stirred up enough to really care and push it with their friends.
And my comment wasn't even meant to be a jab at their football program's lack of attendance, but was geared towards how their stadium looks like it barely has 10k, but they report 18k+
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StanMolsonMan
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 10:39 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:10 AM)statefanatic Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
If they wanted football so bad and started it would think they would have thought they would have more people attending. Money drops will not solve the problem. Georgia Southern coming to town might. Especially if the Georgia State fans get stirred up enough to really care and push it with their friends.
The whole no wins at home since 2011 doesn't help.
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GoApps70
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RE: Attendance?
(04-10-2014 10:52 AM)StanMolsonMan Wrote: (04-10-2014 10:39 AM)GoApps70 Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:10 AM)statefanatic Wrote: (04-10-2014 09:03 AM)NCeagle Wrote: I'd love to see Ga State's reported v actual attendance.
Please just stop. They just strted football where as Georgia Southern has had time to build tradition and a fan base.
If they wanted football so bad and started it would think they would have thought they would have more people attending. Money drops will not solve the problem. Georgia Southern coming to town might. Especially if the Georgia State fans get stirred up enough to really care and push it with their friends.
The whole no wins at home since 2011 doesn't help.
That would be a problem.
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trueeagle98
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RE: Attendance?
As long as your stadium looks full, it doesn't matter. The actual numbers mean little to what the appearance is. The numbers only really matter for schools to gauge how they are doing with ticket sales and use the info to try and improve that. If people are buying a ton of season tix but only going to half the games, then they still count since no one can walk up and buy those seats.
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