(09-24-2012 07:50 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (09-24-2012 07:30 PM)UCF08 Wrote: You think this is a permission slip for a museum tour or something, that's just sent home with a teenager with the expectation that they'll show it to their parents? I live in Florida, am not a parent, and *I* heard about this. If you're a NY parent taking any semblance of an active role in your teenagers life, you would know about this and would make your own decisions. Having an 'opt-in' would absolutely defeat the purpose of allowing the teenager to have options that they normally wouldn't because their parents are sh*tty human beings who shouldn't be parents.
Or... and follow along here..
You read political Bulletin boards that many do not, many work multiple jobs and might not watch the evening news. If you want a sense of how ignorant people are just look at the surveys given to people after voting about current events.
But Ill give you props for admitting that the whole reason this is an opt out is so that some kids can do it without parents knowing.
Yes, I'm sure the only way any parent would know about this is through news outlets and the schools themselves would not make this policy overwhelmingly clear to any parent who takes even a minute amount of interest in their teenagers life. That sounds like common public school policy for any possibly controversial policy.
And you must have problems with comprehension because I've fairly clearly stated that this is an 'opt-out' is because those teenagers who need this the most are the ones least likely to have parents who respect their responsibilities, which include being aware of what is occurring in your teenagers school district. They're the ones who don't, for all intents and purposes, have any parents to infringe upon. It takes a lot to take a child from a parent, especially if the child does not have able or willing relatives to step in. Those children grow up, become teenagers, and unlike you or I, have no true adult supervision or guidance and therefore make bad decisions at a higher rate than those of us lucky enough to win the genetic lottery. You're advocating that they be punished even more by not giving them the same options as a teenager with an active parent, because if they cannot get them through these sorts of outlets, where can they in a timely manner? Should they try to take a cab to planned parenthood? Do you really want them to become pregnant and have the baby because of this? What chance does that baby have at that point?
Quote:Just how many of these schoolkids are pregnant? If this was a majority of students, that would be one thing. But, I'm sure it is a small minority of students. If the law says that the nurse needs permission to even give an aspirin, then that same policy should apply to medication like plan B.
Wait until the first student takes plan B, and then dies from hemorrhaging and their parents didn't know. Lawsuit. Big one.
Yes, because if less than 50% of the high schoolers are getting pregnant, it's clearly a non-issue? Jesus man...
And for the record, Aspirin is actually more dangerous than Plan B. Far moreso, in fact. Not too mention, not taking aspirin has never led to a teen pregnancy (which is far more dangerous than both). And I find it so odd that you're so willing to absolve the parent of any responsibility to act on their own parental rights that you're arguing so vehemently for.
Quote: Because that's what children do... They ruin your life. They're a burden. A virus. Disease that you just catch... Parasite...
At 14, and without parental support, yes they would in all practicality ruin ones life along with possibly cause a large amount of heath issues. And this isn't a fetus, this is a pre-implantation preventative measure (does no effect the implantation of a fertilized egg), just so there is no confusing this with an abortion.
Quote:Quit trying to medicate mine without my permission.
Deal?
If you're too personally involved, or shirk your responsibilities enough to not be aware of something like this, then you have no permission to give. Parental rights, like everything else, work both ways. I truly find it odd that I have to say this so many times.