Well, he now has his opening, and he's not to shy to take it. Let's hope the Bushes and Rove are no longer part of his posse. If they are, he will end up being basically as worthless as the RINOs in the Senate he accuses. And that brief stupid stunt about having his f-in wife run for gov of Fl was as stupid as having Graham's sister run for the open seat vacated by her brother's death in SC. American Citizens aren't interested in dynasties and noble classes. So let's not hear abut any Trump children running either. Ron, don't f--- it up. And Ted, no, we don't want you either. You missed your chance to be on the SCOTUS. Don't compound that. Go for TX governor in 4 years instead, but don't run for Prez. JD indicated earlier this year he might not run due to a young family and his wife's distaste. Now, that decision is easier. Even Rubio will be tied to Trump if he runs. An outsider (is DeSantis really one, or is he a return to the Bush-failure cronyism and RINO fake conservatives that led us to this mess and did nothing to advance the conservative agenda in the Senate?) will be the best option. Ron did govern FL well, and stood up to the RINOS and Democrats in his state. Was that just an act after he lost to Trump? Let's hope not. Donalds obviously a better governor than DeSantis' wife. Whycome no news media really touting the historic significance in FL...well, Donalds is not their house buy.

Quote:Ron DeSantis is GOING OFF on Republicans for SQUANDERING our TWO YEAR TRIFECTA -- ESPECIALLY on deportations

"Why haven't we STRIPPED JURISDICTION from the federal courts over deportation cases?!"

"Why haven't we done IMMIGRATION?! Shut off H1B visas! Why haven't we CODIFIED Trump's immigration executive orders? There's SO MANY THINGS that could have been done. They didn't even ATTEMPT it, Laura."

"A lot of our voters who STAYED HOME. They stayed home because they were FRUSTRATED with the lack of productivity from Republicans in the House and Senate."

Senate Republicans had everything they needed to LOCK IN conservative immigration policy for a GENERATION. They didn't even TRY.

Quote:BREAKING: Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis tells Senate Republicans to IMMEDIATELY go maximum speed in confirming conservative judicial nominees, NOW!!

"ROLL IN COTS to the US Senate Cloakroom! Have them work around the clock. You are NOT gonna be able to confirm ANY conservative judges starting Jan. 3 for the remainder of President Trump's term. 54 for sure, may end up with 56. Even if you got some red state Dems to flip, you are NOT getting 6 Dems."

"Make sure EVERY VACANCY IS FILLED between NOW and Jan. 3."

TIME TO GET GOING, LEADER THUNE!

The clock is ticking. And we can't make this decision for them, but Clarence Thomas and Sam Alito also have a decision to make here on if they want to risk being replaced by another Ketanji Brown Jackson

I actually think Thune is a bigger roadblock than Trump.

Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

(11-04-2026 11:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

Sure, and the Dems intentionally let in up to maybe 20M illegals to bolster their voting rolls. What did you expect Trump and the Repubs to do? Welcome all of them with open arms?

Maybe you should criticize the party you support, rather than worrying about what the Pubs did to combat the Dems' illegal actions.

(11-04-2026 11:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I actually think Thune is a bigger roadblock than Trump.

Thune seems to be the same kind of piece of s#it Cornyn was. If Cornyn hadn't opposed Trump on important issues, Senate would have gotten things done and there would have been no Paxton to contend with and give Trannyrico and undeserved opening. Trump's mouth didn't help, but this election loss is as much the RINOs fault who refused to cooperate and stick together as anyone's. Trump at least is authentically what he is. Cornyn, Thune and other RINOs like Kemp in GA (gave us Kelly Loeffler, whose unelectability gave us Osshuff and Warlocknoff) are lying fakes who don't mind being duplicitous--it's who they are naturally--and are as much to blame. They are pieces of dogdung, and that's being complimentary. RINOs suck.

Ron DeSantis wife never ran for governor. As for if it is just an act or it was because he lost to Trump 2 years ago. Well he's been governor for almost 8 years. Look at his record as governor before the loss to Trump if it concerns you.

(11-04-2026 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

Sure, and the Dems intentionally let in up to maybe 20M illegals to bolster their voting rolls. What did you expect Trump and the Repubs to do? Welcome all of them with open arms?

Maybe you should criticize the party you support, rather than worrying about what the Pubs did to combat the Dems' illegal actions.

Thee illegals drove up prices as much as anything. Deporting tens of millions of them would bring prices, rents, housing costs down. That message was not clearly sent and repeated because the truth is they want to have their real estate cake and eat it too. The real estate prices in the US are all artificial. If they deported too many then the music stops and the truth revealed will hurt. That's why they ratcheted down deportations and kicked Bovino out in Minnesota. Had nothing to do with the cweermonger idiots who were rightfully dispatched from this earth for stupidly interfering with law enforcement.

They needed to forcefully deport 1,000,000 illegals per moth to have a chance and they hesitated to do so. Grandma and baby illegals need to go as well because they are illegal criminals just for being present here. Not fair to citizens who stay out of trouble and try to follow the laws.

(11-04-2026 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

Sure, and the Dems intentionally let in up to maybe 20M illegals to bolster their voting rolls. What did you expect Trump and the Repubs to do? Welcome all of them with open arms?

Maybe you should criticize the party you support, rather than worrying about what the Pubs did to combat the Dems' illegal actions.

Unpacking Myths About Noncitizen Voting — How Heritage Foundation’s Own Data Still Proves It’s Not the Problem It’s Made Out to Be

129 cases out of 20 million is not good ROI. Probably why Dems lost to Trump twice. Illegals don’t vote.

Maybe come with an understanding of what’s really happening. There are always the claims but never the data to back it up.

While the country saw Democrat after Democrat win, majorities in Ohio, North Carolina, Nevada, Arkansas, Kansas, South Dakota, West Virginia, and Alaska backed Republican ballot measures requiring voter identification or limiting voting to American citizens. In Arizona and Nebraska, transgender-related ballot measures also passed overwhelmingly. Voters in several states, even California, also overwhelmingly rejected tax increases.

So what gives? Do Democrats have a 'mandate' to repeat the disastrous Biden* years agenda, Socialized medicine and green new deal? Nope. Middle class Americans who had voted for Trump to lower the Sky-High prices from Biden* and Democrats felt betrayed. This was not a support Democrats and Socialism election, it was a 'Trump, why are you pissing on poor and working Americans and telling us it's raining just like Biden* and Democrats did?' election. To many Americans are short-term and emotional, subject to bad short-term decisions that make their long terms worse. So? Let the Iranians have a nuclear bomb as long as we can get politicians to promise to lower prices...even though prices won't lower from the policies the Democrats that will be in power will try to put in place, and Iran will get worse for Americans in the long run. Soft and weak Americans and RINOs don't care.

And no, it won't help Republicans in 2028 if Dems (along with RINOs) put forth a bunch of ridiculous bills and Trump vetoes them. Then Dems will argue that's why whatever idiot moron of the day they run will need to be Prezident. If they were honest they'd just run the Autopen, since that's all they want in the White House anyway. And stupid people will fall for it...again.

(11-04-2026 11:51 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Ron DeSantis wife never ran for governor. As for if it is just an act or it was because he lost to Trump 2 years ago. Well he's been governor for almost 8 years. Look at his record as governor before the loss to Trump if it concerns you.

No, thank goodness not. Donalds should be miles better than she would have been. But DeSantis did float the idea of his wife taking over his chair for him with a straight face. It's not his goshdang chair in the first place. And that kid of attitude is the very problem with these entitled elite types. That and his Yaley background plus the RINO Bushes and Rove lining up behind him heavily before Trump trounced him and forced him to drop out will always give one pause. Running Florida is not running the US. He changed after he lost to Trump. Was it authentic or tactical? We'll see. Trust but verify.

Too-early thoughts about the 2028 presidential race:



Democrats

The Democratic party claims a deep bench. They can go a lot of ways depending on who best catches voters’ interest.

Kamala Harris is in a good position. She has spoken up for a number of candidates and is now in a position to collect IOUs from winners. She campaigns as much more her own person today than in 2024 and is aggressive about delivering.

If Harris gets the nomination, expect her to pick an up-and-coming millennial as running mate. Pete Buttigieg is reportedly high on the list. Jon Ossoff may be as well.

If Harris doesn’t close the sale as front runner, expect the nominee to be one of those up-and-coming millennials. Mayor Pete and Jon Ossoff enjoy strong support. Cory Booker campaigns well and could emerge from the pack. Still, as I say, the Democrats claim a deep bench.

Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is reportedly exploring a US senate run in 2028. She makes anyone’s short list for VP, along with the always-can-do Zohran Mamdani and, now, James Talarico.

If a Democrat wins the Oval Office in 2028, Jasmine Crockett becomes a strong possibility for US Attorney General.
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Republicans

The likeliest GOP nominee is JD Vance, who may be running by then as a WH incumbent. (Keep an eye on how the 25th Amendment weather develops—especially between now and the third week of January.)

The strongest Republican candidate is a governor right now—someone with executive cred and regional popularity who is unconnected to the Trump administration. Several of these exist. The GOP governor with the highest approval numbers is Phil Scott of Vermont:



Approval numbers are a helpful thing for a GOP contender to have.

Marco Rubio is in the mix but the Iran and Russia debacles may have dented his chances beyond repair.

Ted Cruz and Ron DeSantis are, sadly, autocrat wannabes who want in on Stephen Miller’s Project 2025 action. Fortunately, both are also longer shots. If Democrats keep half of their current mojo, the ability of either to carry even his home state is far from a sure bet.

Mike Johnson should emerge from the Trump Trainwreck with most body parts intact. He becomes a solid possibility for a Cabinet position if he decides he is done as a legislative creature.

Hegseth, RFK jr & cohorts will sink like rocks in history.
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(Yesterday 12:37 AM)GoodOwl Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:51 PM)Eagleyed Wrote:  Ron DeSantis wife never ran for governor. As for if it is just an act or it was because he lost to Trump 2 years ago. Well he's been governor for almost 8 years. Look at his record as governor before the loss to Trump if it concerns you.

No, thank goodness not. Donalds should be miles better than she would have been. But DeSantis did float the idea of his wife taking over his chair for him with a straight face. It's not his goshdang chair in the first place. And that kid of attitude is the very problem with these entitled elite types. That and his Yaley background plus the RINO Bushes and Rove lining up behind him heavily before Trump trounced him and forced him to drop out will always give one pause. Running Florida is not running the US. He changed after he lost to Trump. Was it authentic or tactical? We'll see. Trust but verify.

You, GoodOwl, are a first-rate poster from an analytical standpoint. And in this post, you have surgically illustrated why the Republicans are in such a political fix.

Ron DeSantis is far from perfect. I think that his reason for losing in the 2024 primaries came down entirely due to the Mar-a-Lago raid, and Republicans rallying around the president in the wake of that kind of gov’t abuse. But there is no doubt that DeSantis was a less-than-stellar candidate. As effective as he is at governance, he lacks charisma.

Donald Trump oozes charisma. But that is about it. And this midterm devastation, in my view, is 100% on him.

Here’s the problem: if Republicans are going to repeat the mistake of requiring perfection in every candidate other than the anointed Trump successor (for whom every imperfection will be overlooked or dismissed as some kind of 4-dimensional brilliance), then Republicans are never going to win another national election.

Ron DeSantis is not perfect. But not one of the bold-printed criticisms of him in your quoted post is a reason to write him off in 2028.

(Yesterday 01:43 AM)Gitanole Wrote:  Too-early thoughts about the 2028 presidential race:



Democrats

The Democratic party claims a deep bench. They can go a lot of ways depending on who best catches voters’ interest.

Kamala Harris is in a good position. She has spoken up for a number of candidates and is now in a position to collect IOUs from winners. She campaigns as much more her own person today than in 2024.

Good luck with a twink and a hollow headed bimbo.

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GOP should run another political outsider rather than a RINO. Someone with a big economic investment message.

I mean a RINO is definitely going to get the core Republican vote but won't motivate the Independents and Third Party voters to turn out.

Dems are going to need a younger candidate with a political message to keep their base from fracturing at the polls. Harris definitely isn't that as a careerist DINO.

Neither party can afford to go back to establishment candidates IMO.

(Yesterday 07:41 AM)Kittonhead Wrote:  a RINO is definitely going to get the core Republican vote but won't motivate the Independents and Third Party voters to turn out.

Completely backwards take.

(11-04-2026 11:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

Sure, and the Dems intentionally let in up to maybe 20M illegals to bolster their voting rolls. What did you expect Trump and the Repubs to do? Welcome all of them with open arms?

Maybe you should criticize the party you support, rather than worrying about what the Pubs did to combat the Dems' illegal actions.

Unpacking Myths About Noncitizen Voting — How Heritage Foundation’s Own Data Still Proves It’s Not the Problem It’s Made Out to Be

129 cases out of 20 million is not good ROI. Probably why Dems lost to Trump twice. Illegals don’t vote.

Maybe come with an understanding of what’s really happening. There are always the claims but never the data to back it up.

I've said this ad nauseum before - the single biggest lever for shifting the voter results is to canvas for votes. When you can get votes from people who couldn't be bothered to vote on their own - that's a MAJOR, MAJOR error of democracy. The ability to canvas for votes from uninterested people should be morally repugnant to anyone who wants to protect democracy.

Marco Rubio. IMHO, the perfect guy for 2028. Very strong on policy and very quick on his feet. He's the anti-Trump of the GOP. He'll make the argument that he became SOS in an attempt to contain Trump's erratic nature. I think he can pull it off.

(11-04-2026 11:55 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:44 PM)TripleA Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:40 PM)Mr_XcentricK Wrote:  

(11-04-2026 11:17 PM)Curumim Wrote:  Look, the gains we thought the GOP had made among Latino voters seem to have evaporated, if Texas is any indication.

What did they think would happen after how Trump went about immigration and deploying ICE?

Sure, and the Dems intentionally let in up to maybe 20M illegals to bolster their voting rolls. What did you expect Trump and the Repubs to do? Welcome all of them with open arms?

Maybe you should criticize the party you support, rather than worrying about what the Pubs did to combat the Dems' illegal actions.

Unpacking Myths About Noncitizen Voting — How Heritage Foundation’s Own Data Still Proves It’s Not the Problem It’s Made Out to Be

129 cases out of 20 million is not good ROI. Probably why Dems lost to Trump twice. Illegals don’t vote.

Maybe come with an understanding of what’s really happening. There are always the claims but never the data to back it up.

Hey genius, exactly why do you think the Dems let in all the illegals? To have more people to feed? I'm not saying how many of them are voting yet. But why the hell do you think the Dems let all of them walk across the border? Duh.

(11-04-2026 11:11 PM)TripleA Wrote:  I actually think Thune is a bigger roadblock than Trump.

I agree - Border and Save ACT. If nothing else besides these things were accomplished, we would be in much better shape as a county overall.

IRAN was a mistake, but only because he underestimated the stubbornness and resolve of the Iranians to stick this out. I do [still] believe they needed to be put in their place; but his plan to do so has failed.