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WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Itinerant Texan - 11-13-2023 01:57 PM
11/13/2023
Stephen F. Austin (Away)
Northwestern State (Home)
6:30 P.M. CT Natchitoches, La.
TV: ESPN+
11/14/2023
Southern Utah (Away)
Utah State (Home)
7:00 P.M. MT Logan, Utah
TV: Mountain West Network
Tarleton State (Away)
Bradley (Home)
7:00 P.M. CT Peoria, IL
TV: ESPN+
UTRGV (Away)
TCU (Home)
7:00 P.M. CT Fort Worth, TX
TV: ESPN+
Prairie View A&M (Away)
Abilene Christian (Home)
7:00 P.M. CT Abilene, Texas
TV: ESPN+
11/15/2023
Utah Valley (Away)
Charlotte (Home)
7:00 P.M. ET Charlotte, NC
Radio: ESPN 960 AM/92.1 FM
Northern Arizona (Away)
Seattle U (Home)
7:00 P.M. PT Seattle, WA
TV: ESPN+
11/16/2023
UT Arlington (Away)
New Mexico (Home)
7:00 P.M. MT Albuquerque, NM
Stats Radio: KTNO 620 AM Audio
11/17/2023
Abilene Christian (Away)
San Jose State (Home)
4:15 P.M. ET
Utah Tech (Away)
Youngstown State (Home)
6:30 P.M. ET Youngstown, OH
UTRGV (Away)
Oklahoma (Home)
7:00 P.M. CT Norman, OK
TV: Big 12 Now
Portland State (Away)
California Baptist (Home)
7:00 P.M. PT Riverside, Calif.
Grand Canyon (Away)
San Francisco (Home)
7:00 P.M. MST Glendale, Ariz. / Desert Diamond Arena
TV: CBS Sports Network
11/18/2023
Abilene Christian (Away)
TBA (Home)
TBA US Virgin Islands
Utah Tech (Away)
Lake Erie College (Home)
2:00 P.M. ET Youngstown, Ohio
Seattle U (Away)
VCU (Home)
2:00 P.M. ET Richmond, VA
TV: ESPN+
St. Thomas (Away)
California Baptist (Home)
5:00 P.M. PT Riverside, Calif.
11/19/2023
Abilene Christian (Away)
TBA (Home)
TBA US Virgin Islands
Grand Canyon (Away)
DePaul or South Carolina (Home)
TBA Glendale, Ariz. / Desert Diamond Arena
TV: CBS Sports Network
Stephen F. Austin (Away)
Loyola Marymount (Home)
12:30 P.M. CT George Town, Grand Cayman
Utah Valley (Away)
Southern Mississippi (Home)
12:30 P.M. ET St. Augustine, Florida
Radio: ESPN 960 AM/92.1 FM
UT Arlington (Away)
Arizona (Home)
4:00 P.M. MST Tucson, AZ
Stats Radio: KTNO 620 AM Audio
Cal Poly (Away)
California Baptist (Home)
5:00 P.M. PT Riverside, Calif.
11/20/2023
Utah Valley (Away)
TBA (Home)
TBA St. Augustine, Florida
Radio: ESPN 960 AM/92.1 FM
Tarleton State (Away)
Austin Peay (Home)
4:00 P.M. PT San Juan Capistrano, CA
North American University (Away)
UTRGV (Home)
6:30 P.M. CT Edinburg, TX
TV: ESPN+ (USA) | WAC International
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - RCI - 11-13-2023 03:09 PM
No way to message you IT but know I appreciate the hard work of putting the various schedules into the summary above. I always read and plan around your posts both for in person attendance and for TV games to watch. Thank you for your post.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Lopes87 - 11-13-2023 03:22 PM
Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Outsider - 11-13-2023 05:14 PM
Both PVAM and SJSU should be interesting match-ups and get us ready for the Paradise Jam. I like our chances with PVAM. SJSU should push us a little more, but if we stay aggressive, I think we should be going into the Caribbean 2-1 and walking away from the 1st game 3-1. SJSU is a good opening game for the Jam. Wish I was there...
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - FoUTASportscaster - 11-13-2023 06:14 PM
A lot of away games and guarantee pay outs. Win some and there will be some statements.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - RCI - 11-13-2023 07:20 PM
Now if the games were in the BVI, I would want to go there. The USVI is a bit dangerous, except maybe St. Johns. It is not a place to wander around in. I told some of the guys to stay together within their hotel and event boundaries. We quit chartering out of the USVI due to the danger. Actually, I hope I am wrong and that things have greatly improved.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - DZ1 - 11-14-2023 12:01 AM
Going out on a limb and predicting the WAC goes 18-9
Wins
SFA vs. Northwestern State (Won 96-70)
ACU vs. Prairie View A&M
Utah Valley at Charlotte
Seattle at Northern Arizona
ACU vs San Jose State (Paradise Jam)
Utah Tech at Youngstown State
CBU vs. Portland State
Grand Canyon vs. San Francisco (Desert Diamond)
ACU vs. Fordham or Norfolk State (Paradise Jam)
ACU vs. Hampton/Kent State/Missouri State or Florida Gulf Coast (Paradise Jam)
Utah Tech at Lake Erie College
CBU vs. St. Thomas
SFA vs. Loyola Marymount (Cayman Classic)
Utah Valley vs. Southern Mississippi (Jacksonville Classic)
CBU vs. Cal Poly
Utah Valley vs. Cal St. Fullerton or Cornell (Jacksonville Classic)
Tarleton State at Austin Peay
UTRGV vs. North American University
Losses
Southern Utah at Utah State
Tarleton State at Bradley
UTRGV at TCU
UT Arlington at New Mexico
UTRGV at Oklahoma
Seattle at VCU
UT Arlington at Arizona
SFA vs. Drake (Cayman Classic) *Assumes Drake beats Oakland & SFA beats LM
Grand Canyon vs. South Carolina (Desert Diamond) *Assumes South Carolina beats Depaul and GCU beats San Francisco
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - FoUTASportscaster - 11-14-2023 05:09 PM
I think the UTA v New Mexico will be closer than expected.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - edinburger - 11-14-2023 10:15 PM
Not a great night for the WAC.
Prairie View wins with a bunch of starters missing. Maybe they shouldn't be the starters.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - RCI - 11-14-2023 10:35 PM
PV put on an athletic show. They made 33 out of 34 free throws. We have not seen officials like the group tonight. Our pressing defense was just not allowed. PV is the most athletic team I have seen in Moody in a long time.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Outsider - 11-14-2023 11:20 PM
(11-14-2023 10:35 PM)RCI Wrote: PV put on an athletic show. They made 33 our of 34 free throws. We have not seen officials like the group tonight. Our pressing defense was just not allowed. PV is the most athletic team I have seen in Moody in a long time.
The refs were not good, but we didn't adjust and when PV pressed us back we didn't make shots. We made bad decisions too many times. The loss was on us as much as the win was on PVAM. Pretty sad opening for the men after such a great start in Oklahoma. I saw similar issues with us when we played NC State. It doesn't bode well for us if we don't correct these things.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Spolovilo4EVER - 11-15-2023 01:18 AM
I was shocked to see ACU lose to PVAM! Tarleton lost badly to Bradley, but I was not expecting a win on that one, but thought it would be closer. Bradley is a really good team and can shoot those 3's. They already took down Utah State and UAB, both of which are quality teams. I do not know if we are just not that good or if Bradley is way better than they get credit for, or perhaps a combo of the 2.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - FoUTASportscaster - 11-15-2023 01:33 AM
Bradley is usually quite a good team. They help make the MVC one of the better conferences.
As for ACU, this is what I was referencing in the last thread. It was nice to get that OSU win. But the Cowboys are not a good team. If we want to elevate the conference to one of the better one like the MVC, we need to have better expectations when one of our teams play a bottom-dwelling P5. It's not common for SWAC schools to win in November and December.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Spolovilo4EVER - 11-15-2023 03:39 AM
(11-13-2023 03:22 PM)Lopes87 Wrote: Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
I am inclined to agree with that assessment. the poster who said 18-9 I think severely overestimates this years teams.
GCU and SFA are fairly good but after that it is a bunch of question marks. Seattle, maybe, but I have seen Utah Valley and they are taken a HUGE step down from where they were last year. SUU also has a new coach and a completely new team so I am not expecting a lot from them either. Not sure what to think of ACU right now, maybe Ok St put a hex on them or something who knows, but scratching my head as to how they beat Ok St in Stillwater and lose to a SWAC team at Moody. Tarleton is about the same as last year a little better or worse not sure. We have a few more talented players than we did last year but lost our most talented guy in F. Hicks which offsets the net gain. Cal Baptist has not played anyone of note to get a gauge of where they are at in the race. UTa thinks they are world beaters for taking down a horrid Oral Roberts squad that lost everyone including their coach from last years team. ORU did beat the all powerful Mid American Christian Evangels by 5 points so I guess they might be world beaters!
So UTa Stinks as well. UTRGV is probably at/near the bottom with UTa. RPI wise most of the teams in the WAC are looking at 200-300 range. GCU, SFA, and Seattle being in the 100-200 range. Overall a big step down from last year. If I had to rank them in order I would go 1. GCU
2. SFA
3. Seattle
4. Cal Baptist
5. ACU
6. Tarleton
7. SUU
8. UVU
9. UTU
10. UTRGV
11. UTA
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - edinburger - 11-15-2023 10:12 AM
(11-15-2023 03:39 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:(11-13-2023 03:22 PM)Lopes87 Wrote: Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
I am inclined to agree with that assessment. the poster who said 18-9 I think severely overestimates this years teams.
GCU and SFA are fairly good but after that it is a bunch of question marks. Seattle, maybe, but I have seen Utah Valley and they are taken a HUGE step down from where they were last year. SUU also has a new coach and a completely new team so I am not expecting a lot from them either. Not sure what to think of ACU right now, maybe Ok St put a hex on them or something who knows, but scratching my head as to how they beat Ok St in Stillwater and lose to a SWAC team at Moody. Tarleton is about the same as last year a little better or worse not sure. We have a few more talented players than we did last year but lost our most talented guy in F. Hicks which offsets the net gain. Cal Baptist has not played anyone of note to get a gauge of where they are at in the race. UTa thinks they are world beaters for taking down a horrid Oral Roberts squad that lost everyone including their coach from last years team. ORU did beat the all powerful Mid American Christian Evangels by 5 points so I guess they might be world beaters!
1. GCU
2. SFA
3. Seattle
4. Cal Baptist
5. ACU
6. Tarleton
7. SUU
8. UVU
9. UTU
10. UTRGV
11. UTA
OK, you're just pot stirring putting UTA at #11.
SUU and UTRGV have not won any D1 games at all, but at least SUU kept it close with Utah State for a while.
GCU and Seattle are the only teams that have won both their D1 games, but Seattle just barely held off Montana State.
OSU may be a bottom-dwelling P5 but nevertheless, any P5 is going to maintain some baseline level of respectability and decent recruiting from year-to-year, which you can't be sure of with ORU / The Summit. So I still think it's the better win. But then PVAMU...
1. GCU
2. Seattle
3. ACU/UTA/UVU/SFA/CBU/Tarleton/UTU
10. SUU
11. UTRGV
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - FoUTASportscaster - 11-15-2023 04:51 PM
(11-15-2023 03:39 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:(11-13-2023 03:22 PM)Lopes87 Wrote: Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
I am inclined to agree with that assessment. the poster who said 18-9 I think severely overestimates this years teams.
GCU and SFA are fairly good but after that it is a bunch of question marks. Seattle, maybe, but I have seen Utah Valley and they are taken a HUGE step down from where they were last year. SUU also has a new coach and a completely new team so I am not expecting a lot from them either. Not sure what to think of ACU right now, maybe Ok St put a hex on them or something who knows, but scratching my head as to how they beat Ok St in Stillwater and lose to a SWAC team at Moody. Tarleton is about the same as last year a little better or worse not sure. We have a few more talented players than we did last year but lost our most talented guy in F. Hicks which offsets the net gain. Cal Baptist has not played anyone of note to get a gauge of where they are at in the race. UTa thinks they are world beaters for taking down a horrid Oral Roberts squad that lost everyone including their coach from last years team. ORU did beat the all powerful Mid American Christian Evangels by 5 points so I guess they might be world beaters!
1. GCU
2. SFA
3. Seattle
4. Cal Baptist
5. ACU
6. Tarleton
7. SUU
8. UVU
9. UTU
10. UTRGV
11. UTA
Didn’t want to believe me then, but OSU is not a good team. Didn’t see them losing to a SWAC school, but beating OSU wasn’t a program defining win.
As for UTA, throw all the shade you want. It has no bearing on our fandom. Good news is the court will settle these things out.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - TexanFan - 11-15-2023 05:02 PM
(11-15-2023 03:39 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:(11-13-2023 03:22 PM)Lopes87 Wrote: Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
I am inclined to agree with that assessment. the poster who said 18-9 I think severely overestimates this years teams.
GCU and SFA are fairly good but after that it is a bunch of question marks. Seattle, maybe, but I have seen Utah Valley and they are taken a HUGE step down from where they were last year. SUU also has a new coach and a completely new team so I am not expecting a lot from them either. Not sure what to think of ACU right now, maybe Ok St put a hex on them or something who knows, but scratching my head as to how they beat Ok St in Stillwater and lose to a SWAC team at Moody. Tarleton is about the same as last year a little better or worse not sure. We have a few more talented players than we did last year but lost our most talented guy in F. Hicks which offsets the net gain. Cal Baptist has not played anyone of note to get a gauge of where they are at in the race. UTa thinks they are world beaters for taking down a horrid Oral Roberts squad that lost everyone including their coach from last years team. ORU did beat the all powerful Mid American Christian Evangels by 5 points so I guess they might be world beaters!
1. GCU
2. SFA
3. Seattle
4. Cal Baptist
5. ACU
6. Tarleton
7. SUU
8. UVU
9. UTU
10. UTRGV
11. UTA
For me right now, Tarleton is closer to the bottom than UTA.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - RCI - 11-15-2023 07:06 PM
Getting excited now about baseball..............
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - TexanFan - 11-15-2023 07:09 PM
(11-15-2023 07:06 PM)RCI Wrote: Getting excited now about baseball..............
For us Tarleton fans, it’s women’s tennis.
RE: WAC MEN'S BASKETBALL WEEK #2 - Spolovilo4EVER - 11-15-2023 07:57 PM
(11-15-2023 05:02 PM)TexanFan Wrote:(11-15-2023 03:39 AM)Spolovilo4EVER Wrote:(11-13-2023 03:22 PM)Lopes87 Wrote: Looks like there are maybe 10 for sure W's a few toss ups and the rest look like automatic L's. Hope we as a league break even this week!
I am inclined to agree with that assessment. the poster who said 18-9 I think severely overestimates this years teams.
GCU and SFA are fairly good but after that it is a bunch of question marks. Seattle, maybe, but I have seen Utah Valley and they are taken a HUGE step down from where they were last year. SUU also has a new coach and a completely new team so I am not expecting a lot from them either. Not sure what to think of ACU right now, maybe Ok St put a hex on them or something who knows, but scratching my head as to how they beat Ok St in Stillwater and lose to a SWAC team at Moody. Tarleton is about the same as last year a little better or worse not sure. We have a few more talented players than we did last year but lost our most talented guy in F. Hicks which offsets the net gain. Cal Baptist has not played anyone of note to get a gauge of where they are at in the race. UTa thinks they are world beaters for taking down a horrid Oral Roberts squad that lost everyone including their coach from last years team. ORU did beat the all powerful Mid American Christian Evangels by 5 points so I guess they might be world beaters!
1. GCU
2. SFA
3. Seattle
4. Cal Baptist
5. ACU
6. Tarleton
7. SUU
8. UVU
9. UTU
10. UTRGV
11. UTA
For me right now, Tarleton is closer to the bottom than UTA.
You have to look at the level of competition. Virginia and Bradley are both borderline top 25 teams. We dominated the weaker teams. UTA faces UNM and Arizona next two games. Lets see how they fair and those 2 and then get back to me.