Dutch government collapses - shere khan - 07-08-2023 10:36 AM
The Dutch government collapsed Friday after failing to reach a decision on how to mitigate its overwhelming stream of asylum-seekers.
The crisis arose after the government realized it couldn’t progress beyond a stalemate over Prime Minister Mark Rutte’s conservative VVD party’s plan to separate refugee families and limit the number of migrants entering the Netherlands
https://nypost.com/2023/07/08/dutch-government-collapses-over-immigration-policy/
People are getting fed up with the WEF globohomo fascists.
Reason 345,653 we need Trump
RE: Dutch government collapses - Eagleaidaholic - 07-08-2023 11:14 AM
Is Holland one of those countries the Left wants the US to mimic?
RE: Dutch government collapses - TigerBlue4Ever - 07-08-2023 11:25 AM
(07-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: Is Holland one of those countries the Left wants the US to mimic?
Nope, it is a constitutional monarchy. The left wants nothing to do with a constitution but they probably wouldn't mind having a king, or even better a king who identifies as a queen.
RE: Dutch government collapses - boss man - 07-08-2023 11:30 AM
This is what happens when there are immigration laws/plans but not enough control(s) in place. IOW, what Trump had in place during his term.
Look at the open door down at the southern border under Biden* and the cackling Border Czar.
A sampling of the reader comments to this article:
Too late, Europe is finished. History will not reflect well on the spineless defense of Europe by this witless generation of leaders. Canada next, followed by the US.
Hungary has a sane pollicy: no illegals allowed in. No exceptions. Most importantly, they have the fortitude to enforce their policy.
We need to stop calling all immigrants “asylum seekers”. They aren’t coming from Poland in 1939. These are poor people from poor countries who are seeking government benefits from developed countries.
IMO all European countries and their native populations need to FIGHT for their sovereign rights. No one has the right to dissolve their communities and up end their lives. And make the country unsafe. And in the US, we need to do the same.
Going Woke and Going Broke. Another country realizes that it cannot handle explosive populations of immigrants that refuse to adapt to the host country's way of living.
Take a good look America and see what is happening in Europe. These “asylum seekers” are the equivalent of a swarm of locusts. They arrive absorb all government resources and benefits, exponentially increase the crime rate, overwhelm all social services and programs, literally trash the city streets with their waste and garbage, and drive out all private businesses. Then they move on to the next city, state, or nation to do the same. All they did was to suck up every benefit they could take, victimize the citizenry, and contribute nothing in return. This is what is going to be the future of our cities and our nation.
Europe is being conquered in a war of immigration from the Middle East and Africa. These people are not "refugees." They are invaders.
Meanwhile, here in the US, more than 8,000,000 have streamed across our SOUTHERN BORDER during Biden’s Open Border Presidency.
It is not immigration. It's a invasion funded by your tax dollars.
It's almost as if citizens believe they should have some say about who comes into their country.
RE: Dutch government collapses - shere khan - 07-08-2023 11:31 AM
(07-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: Is Holland one of those countries the Left wants the US to mimic?
Nah you are thinking italy or germany in the 30's
RE: Dutch government collapses - Bear Catlett - 07-08-2023 11:42 AM
Hmmm...
Sounds familiar. Where have I heard this story before?
You know, the one where idiots just throw open their doors and let the world come pouring in while expecting someone else to pay for it.
RE: Dutch government collapses - Owl 69/70/75 - 07-08-2023 12:28 PM
Rutte is actually fairly conservative by European standards. But coalition governments are always inherently unstable.
RE: Dutch government collapses - umbluegray - 07-08-2023 12:37 PM
(07-08-2023 11:31 AM)shere khan Wrote: (07-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: Is Holland one of those countries the Left wants the US to mimic?
Nah you are thinking italy or germany in the 30's
No lie!
RE: Dutch government collapses - Owl 69/70/75 - 07-08-2023 12:40 PM
Holland actually has probably the best health care in the world. And it is almost all private sector.
RE: Dutch government collapses - umbluegray - 07-08-2023 12:58 PM
Netherlands Population 2023 (Live)
Current Population: 17,615,215
Ethnic Groups
79.3% Dutch
5.7% European
2.4% Turks
2.3% Indo-European
2.2% Moroccan
2.1% Surinamese
0.9% Caribbean
0.6% Poles
0.3% Chinese
3.9% Other
RE: Dutch government collapses - JRsec - 07-08-2023 01:10 PM
(07-08-2023 11:25 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote: (07-08-2023 11:14 AM)Eagleaidaholic Wrote: Is Holland one of those countries the Left wants the US to mimic?
Nope, it is a constitutional monarchy. The left wants nothing to do with a constitution but they probably wouldn't mind having a king, or even better a king who identifies as a queen.
It all started with Benny Hill and Victor Victoria! Let a comedian cross dress and the world goes to hell in a handbasket! Now it's die Niederlanden and they are under attack, as a small and what was stable country, being targeted by mass immigration, but done for the purpose of culture change.
I tell you guys right now, the snowbird flight to the South is another such planned attempt to destroy a strong cohesive culture with an influx of brat eaters who know we have it better down here, but who lack the capacity to understand it is better because they weren't in it! Alabama, Georgia, North Carolina, Florida and Texas should take note. Otherwise, we may be overrun, our history and language destroyed, and sweet tea abandoned, and pasties sold instead of pot pies. And you know how these know it alls will vote.
We need a wall alright, but one that stretches from the Northern border of Virginia across Kentucky and into Missouri. Protect us from that migration and we will be able to finish the one on the Southern border!
RE: Dutch government collapses - CrimsonPhantom - 07-08-2023 03:05 PM
Dutch Prime Minister Who Presided Over Farmer’s Revolt Resigns in Disgrace As Government Falls Apart
Quote:Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has submitted his government’s written resignation to King Willem-Alexander, who interrupted his holiday to receive it.
Rutte’s fourth government was a fragile coalition consisting of his People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), the liberal democratic Democrats 66, the Christian Democratic Appeal (CDA), and the centrist ChristenUnie. It took 10 months to form the coalition, which lasted less than 18 months.
The coalition, with its radically different perspectives, collapsed primarily due to disagreements over immigration. Amid concerns about a housing crisis, high gas prices, and inflation, some individuals sought to blame foreign migrants, including international students, wealthier expats, and asylum seekers.
“It’s no secret that the coalition parties think very differently about asylum policy and today we unfortunately need to draw the conclusion that the differences are unbridgeable,” said Rutte in a press conference on Friday night. “The fall of a government is never good. But it is sometimes impossible in a coalition country like the Netherlands to come to one agreement.”
Although the number of asylum seekers in 2023 is expected to be similar to that of 2022, around 45,000, Rutte and the CDA reportedly advocated for stricter measures in a new bill that would limit the rights of family members to join refugees from countries temporarily affected by war. Democrats 66 and particularly the ChristenUnie disagreed, leading to the breakdown of cabinet talks on Friday.
However, the government’s resignation is unlikely to resolve the pressing issues facing the Netherlands. Rutte highlighted several problems in his resignation press conference, including housing for asylum seekers, the popular farmer’s resistance to EU-led nitrogen emissions targets, support for earthquake victims in Groningen, and a government childcare benefits scandal. Rutte emphasized that the country is waiting for solutions rather than delays.
In May, the European Commission approved a plan put forward by the Dutch government to buy out thousands of farmers in order to meet the EU’s Natura 2000 goals to allegedly protect the environment.
The scheme would offer farmers 120% of the value of their farms and could see around 3,000 “high-emission” farms shut down. The Dutch government also has a proposal to give dairy, pig, and poultry farmers a deal for 100% of the value of their farms should they choose to shut down.
The EU’s Natura 2000 plan is aimed at cutting nitrogen emissions, but it could have a significant impact on the Dutch farming industry, one of the most productive in Europe. The government hoped to set aside 1.4 billion euros for the farm shutdown schemes.
That appears to be put on hold for now. Nevertheless, the lack of a government will not be quickly resolved. Elections are expected in November, followed by another period of coalition formation in the fragmented, multiparty system. In the meantime, Rutte’s government will act as a caretaker and have limited decision-making power.
While Rutte stated that no single party triggered the collapse, some critics blamed him, suggesting that pressure from his party to adopt a tougher stance on asylum policy led him to issue an ultimatum. Jan Paternotte, the chairperson of the D66 liberal democratic party, mentioned that Rutte presented additional demands during negotiations, particularly concerning the children of refugees. He remarked that Rutte, who was known for seeking solutions rather than resorting to ultimatums, changed his approach.
An opinion poll conducted for the current affairs program EenVandaag, which surveyed 18,000 individuals, found that almost three-quarters of respondents considered it “unacceptable” for Rutte to return as prime minister, and 83% believed that his fourth administration had performed poorly.
Some groups celebrated the government’s collapse. Geert Wilders, the leader of the right-leaning Party for Freedom, began his campaign, while Caroline van der Plas, the leader of the populist Farmer-Citizen Movement, which unexpectedly achieved significant victories in regional elections in March and now holds significant influence in the Senate, tweeted that their flags were already flying.
RE: Dutch government collapses - shere khan - 07-08-2023 03:21 PM
War is coming
RE: Dutch government collapses - CrimsonPhantom - 07-08-2023 05:18 PM
I know someone who's happy.
RE: Dutch government collapses - MileHighBronco - 07-08-2023 08:15 PM
(07-08-2023 03:05 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Dutch Prime Minister Who Presided Over Farmer’s Revolt Resigns in Disgrace As Government Falls Apart
Quote:Dutch Prime Minister Mark Rutte has submitted his government’s written resignation to King Willem-Alexander, who interrupted his holiday to receive it.
Rutte’s fourth government was a fragile coalition consisting of his People’s Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD), the liberal democratic Democrats 66, the Christian Democratic Appeal (CDA), and the centrist ChristenUnie. It took 10 months to form the coalition, which lasted less than 18 months.
The coalition, with its radically different perspectives, collapsed primarily due to disagreements over immigration. Amid concerns about a housing crisis, high gas prices, and inflation, some individuals sought to blame foreign migrants, including international students, wealthier expats, and asylum seekers.
“It’s no secret that the coalition parties think very differently about asylum policy and today we unfortunately need to draw the conclusion that the differences are unbridgeable,” said Rutte in a press conference on Friday night. “The fall of a government is never good. But it is sometimes impossible in a coalition country like the Netherlands to come to one agreement.”
Although the number of asylum seekers in 2023 is expected to be similar to that of 2022, around 45,000, Rutte and the CDA reportedly advocated for stricter measures in a new bill that would limit the rights of family members to join refugees from countries temporarily affected by war. Democrats 66 and particularly the ChristenUnie disagreed, leading to the breakdown of cabinet talks on Friday.
However, the government’s resignation is unlikely to resolve the pressing issues facing the Netherlands. Rutte highlighted several problems in his resignation press conference, including housing for asylum seekers, the popular farmer’s resistance to EU-led nitrogen emissions targets, support for earthquake victims in Groningen, and a government childcare benefits scandal. Rutte emphasized that the country is waiting for solutions rather than delays.
In May, the European Commission approved a plan put forward by the Dutch government to buy out thousands of farmers in order to meet the EU’s Natura 2000 goals to allegedly protect the environment.
The scheme would offer farmers 120% of the value of their farms and could see around 3,000 “high-emission” farms shut down. The Dutch government also has a proposal to give dairy, pig, and poultry farmers a deal for 100% of the value of their farms should they choose to shut down.
The EU’s Natura 2000 plan is aimed at cutting nitrogen emissions, but it could have a significant impact on the Dutch farming industry, one of the most productive in Europe. The government hoped to set aside 1.4 billion euros for the farm shutdown schemes.
That appears to be put on hold for now. Nevertheless, the lack of a government will not be quickly resolved. Elections are expected in November, followed by another period of coalition formation in the fragmented, multiparty system. In the meantime, Rutte’s government will act as a caretaker and have limited decision-making power.
While Rutte stated that no single party triggered the collapse, some critics blamed him, suggesting that pressure from his party to adopt a tougher stance on asylum policy led him to issue an ultimatum. Jan Paternotte, the chairperson of the D66 liberal democratic party, mentioned that Rutte presented additional demands during negotiations, particularly concerning the children of refugees. He remarked that Rutte, who was known for seeking solutions rather than resorting to ultimatums, changed his approach.
An opinion poll conducted for the current affairs program EenVandaag, which surveyed 18,000 individuals, found that almost three-quarters of respondents considered it “unacceptable” for Rutte to return as prime minister, and 83% believed that his fourth administration had performed poorly.
Some groups celebrated the government’s collapse. Geert Wilders, the leader of the right-leaning Party for Freedom, began his campaign, while Caroline van der Plas, the leader of the populist Farmer-Citizen Movement, which unexpectedly achieved significant victories in regional elections in March and now holds significant influence in the Senate, tweeted that their flags were already flying.
It's just another reason to say hell no when somebody brings up a desire to emulate countries with more than two political parties and create a coalition government. They are unstable and unworkable.
Granted, we have the equivalent of 1 party already, since the GOP is worthless in resisting the dems.
RE: Dutch government collapses - CrimsonPhantom - 07-09-2023 12:38 PM
A Biological Man Just Won Miss Netherlands 2023, and I've Got a Controversial Response
RE: Dutch government collapses - Owl 69/70/75 - 07-09-2023 05:51 PM
(07-08-2023 03:05 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: Quote:In May, the European Commission approved a plan put forward by the Dutch government to buy out thousands of farmers in order to meet the EU’s Natura 2000 goals to allegedly protect the environment.
Caroline van der Plas, the leader of the populist Farmer-Citizen Movement, which unexpectedly achieved significant victories in regional elections in March and now holds significant influence in the Senate
My guess is that the two are not unrelated.
RE: Dutch government collapses - shere khan - 07-09-2023 06:13 PM
(07-09-2023 12:38 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: A Biological Man Just Won Miss Netherlands 2023, and I've Got a Controversial Response
![[Image: EofuexVUwAAuKyZ.jpg:large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EofuexVUwAAuKyZ.jpg:large)
Eva Vlaardingerbroek
The woman that should be miss netherlands,quoted in srticle
RE: Dutch government collapses - JRsec - 07-09-2023 06:51 PM
(07-09-2023 06:13 PM)shere khan Wrote: (07-09-2023 12:38 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote: A Biological Man Just Won Miss Netherlands 2023, and I've Got a Controversial Response
![[Image: EofuexVUwAAuKyZ.jpg:large]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EofuexVUwAAuKyZ.jpg:large)
Eva Vlaardingerbroek
The woman that should be miss netherlands,quoted in srticle
![[Image: 692289651_EvaVlaardingerbroek29.JPG.eecc...f9f5c3.JPG]](https://www.bellazon.com/main/uploads/monthly_2020_07/692289651_EvaVlaardingerbroek29.JPG.eecc595cf87d5b528912163ee82ceb85.thumb.JPG.00e8cf81189c8c9504f292c4b8f9f5c3.JPG)
That boys should be enlarged and placed in the Babes of the Day thread! Wow!
RE: Dutch government collapses - BartlettTigerFan - 07-09-2023 07:21 PM
Winner (male)
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Runner up
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