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Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - BeatWestern! - 05-29-2023 05:42 PM
Ross Dellenger of Sports Illustrated reports:
https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1663294302968070144?cxt=HHwWgIC-1eTWmpUuAAAA
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Big Frog II - 05-29-2023 05:45 PM
and the plot thickens.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Tiger1983 - 05-29-2023 05:51 PM
(05-29-2023 05:42 PM)BeatWestern! Wrote: https://twitter.com/RossDellenger/status/1663294302968070144?cxt=HHwWgIC-1eTWmpUuAAAA
Good find, thank you.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - uconnwhaler - 05-29-2023 05:51 PM
Starting to like our chances. Just hoping the Pac 12 hangs together.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - GoldenWarrior11 - 05-29-2023 05:55 PM
Dellenger: Commissioner, how many teams is the Big 12 looking to add?
Yormark:
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RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - World Wide Swag - 05-29-2023 05:57 PM
Any chatter on what the Big East's next TV deal will look like? Their deal signed in 2013 that paid $500m over 12 years ($4.16m per school per year) gave us somewhat of a benchmark as to what basketball media rights are worth.
Even if that doubles I think UConn would have to bolt for the Big 12, even at a reduced share.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Tiger1983 - 05-29-2023 06:01 PM
"Big 12 presidents and athletic directors will meet Wednesday through Friday in a gathering that is expected to focus on Yormark’s desire to grow the league to as many as 16 members."
https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/29/big-12-meetings-expansion-gonzaga-uconn
Until the PAC 12 media deal is revealed, my uneducated guess is the discussion will center around "what if" scenarios except for perhaps the Zags.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - World Wide Swag - 05-29-2023 06:04 PM
Adding Gonzaga seems like a really short-sighted decision and I'm not sure why any conference other than the American or Big East would even consider it. There's no guarantee that they are anything special once Few leaves. See also: Wichita and the AAC
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - GoBuckeyes1047 - 05-29-2023 06:15 PM
(05-29-2023 05:55 PM)GoldenWarrior11 Wrote: Dellenger: Commissioner, how many teams is the Big 12 looking to add?
Yormark:
Sure, why not go big or go home lol
Add the 4 corner schools, SDSU, UNLV, Memphis, UCONN, and Gonzaga for 20/21.
On a more serious note, I think the 4C, SDSU, and Memphis are solid additions. If possible, I'd be down to add Gonzaga and UCONN olympic sports, and then give UCONN a 6 game scheduling agreement for football and maybe something similar with Army if possible, but that's past 16 teams. More likely is SDSU, Arizona, Colorado, and either UCONN or Memphis for 16 teams and then Gonzaga can be added separately if desired.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Alanda - 05-29-2023 06:18 PM
This will be a week to look forward to.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - ArmoredUpKnight - 05-29-2023 06:24 PM
Colorado and Arizona are going to make the jump. I don’t care who you attach to it, just make sure we get some P5 teams for that sweet sweet pro rata money.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - GoldenWarrior11 - 05-29-2023 06:28 PM
(05-29-2023 05:57 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote: Any chatter on what the Big East's next TV deal will look like? Their deal signed in 2013 that paid $500m over 12 years ($4.16m per school per year) gave us somewhat of a benchmark as to what basketball media rights are worth.
Even if that doubles I think UConn would have to bolt for the Big 12, even at a reduced share.
Still rumored to be anywhere from $8-$10 million annually. Wouldn't be shocked to see a split network agreement with ESPN as well.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Acres - 05-29-2023 06:46 PM
From the article
Quote: The Big 12’s pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn, San Diego State and UNLV is somewhat contingent on whether the league can grab any Pac-12 defections. The conference’s new TV contract calls for a pro-rata share for any Power 5 expansion members. Additions from the Group of 5 could mean splitting the television revenue by however many programs are added—a potential issue for some officials.
Yeah, good luck convincing big12 presidents to split their 32 million per year with G5 schools.
This is dead on arrival. Power 5 schools covered by prorata or no expansion.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - tigergatorcyclone - 05-29-2023 06:53 PM
(05-29-2023 06:46 PM)Acres Wrote: From the article
Quote: The Big 12’s pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn, San Diego State and UNLV is somewhat contingent on whether the league can grab any Pac-12 defections. The conference’s new TV contract calls for a pro-rata share for any Power 5 expansion members. Additions from the Group of 5 could mean splitting the television revenue by however many programs are added—a potential issue for some officials.
Yeah, good luck convincing big12 presidents to split their 32 million per year with G5 schools.
This is dead on arrival. Power 5 schools covered by prorata or no expansion.
Who is your source?
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - otown - 05-29-2023 07:02 PM
(05-29-2023 06:53 PM)tigergatorcyclone Wrote:(05-29-2023 06:46 PM)Acres Wrote: From the article
Quote: The Big 12’s pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn, San Diego State and UNLV is somewhat contingent on whether the league can grab any Pac-12 defections. The conference’s new TV contract calls for a pro-rata share for any Power 5 expansion members. Additions from the Group of 5 could mean splitting the television revenue by however many programs are added—a potential issue for some officials.
Yeah, good luck convincing big12 presidents to split their 32 million per year with G5 schools.
This is dead on arrival. Power 5 schools covered by prorata or no expansion.
Who is your source?
The source is called "common sense"
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - AssKickingChicken - 05-29-2023 07:12 PM
(05-29-2023 06:04 PM)World Wide Swag Wrote: Adding Gonzaga seems like a really short-sighted decision and I'm not sure why any conference other than the American or Big East would even consider it. There's no guarantee that they are anything special once Few leaves. See also: Wichita and the AAC
A non-football makes sense if you have a football affiliate, like with Wichita/Navy. So unless you want Army or Hawaii, forget it.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Yosef181 - 05-29-2023 07:15 PM
Can't wait for all of this hoopla to end with Memphis + UNLV in the Big 12.
I'm not predicting this, but it would be hilarious after all of the "4 Corners" hype here.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - ExpertAd991 - 05-29-2023 07:25 PM
(05-29-2023 07:15 PM)Yosef181 Wrote: Can't wait for all of this hoopla to end with Memphis + UNLV in the Big 12.
I'm not predicting this, but it would be hilarious after all of the "4 Corners" hype here.
That will happen since Big 12 fans think they're the best conference in the world.
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - CFBLurker - 05-29-2023 07:28 PM
(05-29-2023 06:46 PM)Acres Wrote: From the article
Quote: The Big 12’s pursuit of Gonzaga, UConn, San Diego State and UNLV is somewhat contingent on whether the league can grab any Pac-12 defections. The conference’s new TV contract calls for a pro-rata share for any Power 5 expansion members. Additions from the Group of 5 could mean splitting the television revenue by however many programs are added—a potential issue for some officials.
Yeah, good luck convincing big12 presidents to split their 32 million per year with G5 schools.
This is dead on arrival. Power 5 schools covered by prorata or no expansion.
IYormark believes value exists in splitting hoops and football rights. It makes sense to me he's convinced Big 12 schools to secure the best hoops brands and some pain in the short term to get it on the back end
RE: Dellenger: Big 12 meetings this week, expansion talks to take center stage - Bathtub Gin - 05-29-2023 07:45 PM
(05-29-2023 06:18 PM)Alanda Wrote: This will be a week to look forward to.
Weren’t we listed last time by Ross and now we are not? Ugh