(05-15-2023 09:10 AM)shayden31 Wrote:  Interesting article on the current landscape of expansion. Seems like it's all about how the west was won!

Memphis is mentioned in the intro and in the Big 12 and Pac 12 section. While a great deal is unknown, I am curious how the recent $ for stadium renovations might improve our chances.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/15/college-football-expansion-whats-next-power-5-conferences

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 09:10 AM)shayden31 Wrote:  Interesting article on the current landscape of expansion. Seems like it's all about how the west was won!

Memphis is mentioned in the intro and in the Big 12 and Pac 12 section. While a great deal is unknown, I am curious how the recent $ for stadium renovations might improve our chances.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/15/college-football-expansion-whats-next-power-5-conferences

IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 09:10 AM)shayden31 Wrote:  Interesting article on the current landscape of expansion. Seems like it's all about how the west was won!

Memphis is mentioned in the intro and in the Big 12 and Pac 12 section. While a great deal is unknown, I am curious how the recent $ for stadium renovations might improve our chances.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/15/college-football-expansion-whats-next-power-5-conferences

IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 09:10 AM)shayden31 Wrote:  Interesting article on the current landscape of expansion. Seems like it's all about how the west was won!

Memphis is mentioned in the intro and in the Big 12 and Pac 12 section. While a great deal is unknown, I am curious how the recent $ for stadium renovations might improve our chances.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/15/college-football-expansion-whats-next-power-5-conferences

IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 09:10 AM)shayden31 Wrote:  Interesting article on the current landscape of expansion. Seems like it's all about how the west was won!

Memphis is mentioned in the intro and in the Big 12 and Pac 12 section. While a great deal is unknown, I am curious how the recent $ for stadium renovations might improve our chances.

https://www.si.com/college/2023/05/15/college-football-expansion-whats-next-power-5-conferences

IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

(05-18-2023 09:24 AM)Atlanta Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

Well it is obvious & logical if FSU & Miami were to leave the ACC, that the ACC would look first to reload in the state of FL (not unlike the PAC's current interest in SDSU & even Fresno St). Further I don't think it's the AD principally to be blamed for the athletic program being passed over (we've been passed over with several different ADs) because he has a lot of bosses who are more likely to steer decisions, including another relative short-termer in the president's job. But more likely those who are on the BOT, they steer the longer term decisions while the AD (ours not being particularly dynamic IMO) makes recommendations & suggestions.

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 10:07 AM)SouthernBoiNOLA Wrote:  IMO, a the stadium renovations are nice, and needed, but they have little impact on any expansion decision. It think in 10 years, there will be the SEC, BIG 10, and a mashup of the best of the ACC, BIg12, the PAC, and maybe one or two best of the rest mid majors. The rest of the schools will be mid major. That means the Wake Forest, Duke, TCU, Texas Tech, AZ state, Washington St, etc have a strong possibility of being demoted to mid major in college football. Our only hope, is to be in the playoffs enough times between now and then to make the cut to the best of the rest league. The new playoff model gives us an opportunity, but we will need to be in the playoffs multiple times over the next 10 years. If that doesn't happen, then I think we have no shot at a seat at the big boys table. On the bright side, if we don't make it, we will probably be in a conf with the former P5's that didn't make the cut either.

Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

(05-18-2023 10:21 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

what a fall USF has had. From being the darling Florida program to go to the Big East to not even sniffing any expansion the last 2 go arounds. What a fall.

(05-18-2023 10:21 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

what a fall USF has had. From being the darling Florida program to go to the Big East to not even sniffing any expansion the last 2 go arounds. What a fall.

(05-18-2023 11:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 10:21 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

what a fall USF has had. From being the darling Florida program to go to the Big East to not even sniffing any expansion the last 2 go arounds. What a fall.

Of course FAU is ahead of us. They announce 18k per game and are 118-147 in the 22 years they have been playing football.

(05-18-2023 10:21 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:22 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-15-2023 04:05 PM)Browning Hall Wrote:  Not if they stop using that out-dated derogatory term altogether. No one wants that label. It’s not an official designation and there’s no official definition. It’s not used by the NCAA and there are no major classifications. Someone at a small school used it to describe an upcoming matchup, if I remember correctly, and sports hacks ran with it.

Everyone knows who has the money and who doesn’t. No scarlet letters needed..

Seems like the difference in the SEC/Big10 vs the other 3 so called power leagues is that they stick together and share the wealth. Northwestern and Vandy aren’t treated like Texas Tech, BC and Washington State. We all know Texas ego destroyed the Big12 that’s a big reason why Nebraska, Colorado, A&M and Missouri all left. And now it appears that Florida State is going the same thing to the ACC

If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

what a fall USF has had. From being the darling Florida program to go to the Big East to not even sniffing any expansion the last 2 go arounds. What a fall.

(05-18-2023 11:35 AM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 11:08 AM)Stammers Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 10:21 AM)fsquid Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:32 AM)Eagleonpar Wrote:  

(05-18-2023 08:28 AM)Claw Wrote:  If Florida State breaks open the ACC for us it will cement Norvell as the greatest coach in Memphis history.

If Florida State and Miami leave the ACC will just ad USF and FAU. Where would you want to go? Miami, Tampa or Memphis ? But folks like you will somehow blame our AD. Wash rinse repeat

what a fall USF has had. From being the darling Florida program to go to the Big East to not even sniffing any expansion the last 2 go arounds. What a fall.

Of course FAU is ahead of us. They announce 18k per game and are 118-147 in the 22 years they have been playing football.

They’re also in Boca Raton and not Memphis TN. Even you should see that on field success and attendance has 0 to do with conf expansion. Population, eyeballs and location. Only reason Houston was selected over Memphis.

And no I don’t think FAU would be on the list ahead of us this go round. I think if B12 expands their preference is:
4 corners

If that’s a no, then:
Memphis/ SDSU/ USF/ UNLV/ UConn (some mix of these)

Or maybe the ACC has a big shakeup and we somehow land there.

(05-18-2023 04:09 PM)MemTigers1998 Wrote:  I at least am starting to get a little hope because Memphis has gotten a few mentions lately. In the end, yeah we will probably get left out again because we always do but maybe this time will be different.