(01-03-2023 08:10 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The Golden Flashes open conference play tonight at the MAC Center against Western Michigan. The Broncos wrapped up non league play at 4-9, going 1-6 on the road.

The common opponent is Cleveland State, who defeated the Broncos by 22 points in late November.

Western Michigan has held their own against Big Ten Opponents including a ten point loss to #14 Wisconsin (76-66) and a one point loss to Minnesota.

The Flashes will have to slow down Lamar Norman Jr. (17.1 ppg) and Trey Maddox (11.1 ppg). Both of these guards are Michigan kids who transferred back home. Norman Jr., a 6'1 guard, played for three seasons at Duquense while the 6'6 Maddox made the return trip to Michigan from Cal State Fullerton.

Another guy to watch tonight is 6'8 junior center Titus Wright. He has....are you ready for this...played all three seasons at WMU. This season has has started all 13 games and averages 7.4 points on 60% shooting. Wright and 6'7 forward Markese Hastings will challenge the Flashes under the hoop.

From what I can tell this is your typical Jekyll and Hyde WMU team that we grew to love under Coach Hawkins. Can they beat the Golden Flashes? Sure. Should they beat the Golden Flashes? No way. My deep dive analytical research tells me that if Kent State limits WMU to one shot and takes care of the basketball, the good guys will be 1-0 after tonight's contest.

Kent State 73
Western Michigan 58
Carry puts in 17 and Jacobs just misses a double double with 11 and 8

GO FLASHES!

(01-03-2023 03:22 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 08:10 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The Golden Flashes open conference play tonight at the MAC Center against Western Michigan. The Broncos wrapped up non league play at 4-9, going 1-6 on the road.

The common opponent is Cleveland State, who defeated the Broncos by 22 points in late November.

Western Michigan has held their own against Big Ten Opponents including a ten point loss to #14 Wisconsin (76-66) and a one point loss to Minnesota.

The Flashes will have to slow down Lamar Norman Jr. (17.1 ppg) and Trey Maddox (11.1 ppg). Both of these guards are Michigan kids who transferred back home. Norman Jr., a 6'1 guard, played for three seasons at Duquense while the 6'6 Maddox made the return trip to Michigan from Cal State Fullerton.

Another guy to watch tonight is 6'8 junior center Titus Wright. He has....are you ready for this...played all three seasons at WMU. This season has has started all 13 games and averages 7.4 points on 60% shooting. Wright and 6'7 forward Markese Hastings will challenge the Flashes under the hoop.

From what I can tell this is your typical Jekyll and Hyde WMU team that we grew to love under Coach Hawkins. Can they beat the Golden Flashes? Sure. Should they beat the Golden Flashes? No way. My deep dive analytical research tells me that if Kent State limits WMU to one shot and takes care of the basketball, the good guys will be 1-0 after tonight's contest.

Kent State 73
Western Michigan 58
Carry puts in 17 and Jacobs just misses a double double with 11 and 8

GO FLASHES!

I think we have a lot of company. 92.3 The Fan actually told all their listeners the MAC season starts tonight on their every 20 minute update. It was mentioned right along with the Browns and the Cavs. Then their gambling ads talked about betting on Toledo tonight (I think). Amazing since that was more coverage of MAC basketball then I have ever heard on the station.

(01-03-2023 03:30 PM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:22 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 08:10 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The Golden Flashes open conference play tonight at the MAC Center against Western Michigan. The Broncos wrapped up non league play at 4-9, going 1-6 on the road.

The common opponent is Cleveland State, who defeated the Broncos by 22 points in late November.

Western Michigan has held their own against Big Ten Opponents including a ten point loss to #14 Wisconsin (76-66) and a one point loss to Minnesota.

The Flashes will have to slow down Lamar Norman Jr. (17.1 ppg) and Trey Maddox (11.1 ppg). Both of these guards are Michigan kids who transferred back home. Norman Jr., a 6'1 guard, played for three seasons at Duquense while the 6'6 Maddox made the return trip to Michigan from Cal State Fullerton.

Another guy to watch tonight is 6'8 junior center Titus Wright. He has....are you ready for this...played all three seasons at WMU. This season has has started all 13 games and averages 7.4 points on 60% shooting. Wright and 6'7 forward Markese Hastings will challenge the Flashes under the hoop.

From what I can tell this is your typical Jekyll and Hyde WMU team that we grew to love under Coach Hawkins. Can they beat the Golden Flashes? Sure. Should they beat the Golden Flashes? No way. My deep dive analytical research tells me that if Kent State limits WMU to one shot and takes care of the basketball, the good guys will be 1-0 after tonight's contest.

Kent State 73
Western Michigan 58
Carry puts in 17 and Jacobs just misses a double double with 11 and 8

GO FLASHES!

I think we have a lot of company. 92.3 The Fan actually told all their listeners the MAC season starts tonight on their every 20 minute update. It was mentioned right along with the Browns and the Cavs. Then their gambling ads talked about betting on Toledo tonight (I think). Amazing since that was more coverage of MAC basketball then I have ever heard on the station.

Wow. Two sentences every 20 minutes. I guess OSU's season must be over.

(01-03-2023 03:41 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:30 PM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:22 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 08:10 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The Golden Flashes open conference play tonight at the MAC Center against Western Michigan. The Broncos wrapped up non league play at 4-9, going 1-6 on the road.

The common opponent is Cleveland State, who defeated the Broncos by 22 points in late November.

Western Michigan has held their own against Big Ten Opponents including a ten point loss to #14 Wisconsin (76-66) and a one point loss to Minnesota.

The Flashes will have to slow down Lamar Norman Jr. (17.1 ppg) and Trey Maddox (11.1 ppg). Both of these guards are Michigan kids who transferred back home. Norman Jr., a 6'1 guard, played for three seasons at Duquense while the 6'6 Maddox made the return trip to Michigan from Cal State Fullerton.

Another guy to watch tonight is 6'8 junior center Titus Wright. He has....are you ready for this...played all three seasons at WMU. This season has has started all 13 games and averages 7.4 points on 60% shooting. Wright and 6'7 forward Markese Hastings will challenge the Flashes under the hoop.

From what I can tell this is your typical Jekyll and Hyde WMU team that we grew to love under Coach Hawkins. Can they beat the Golden Flashes? Sure. Should they beat the Golden Flashes? No way. My deep dive analytical research tells me that if Kent State limits WMU to one shot and takes care of the basketball, the good guys will be 1-0 after tonight's contest.

Kent State 73
Western Michigan 58
Carry puts in 17 and Jacobs just misses a double double with 11 and 8

GO FLASHES!

I think we have a lot of company. 92.3 The Fan actually told all their listeners the MAC season starts tonight on their every 20 minute update. It was mentioned right along with the Browns and the Cavs. Then their gambling ads talked about betting on Toledo tonight (I think). Amazing since that was more coverage of MAC basketball then I have ever heard on the station.

Wow. Two sentences every 20 minutes. I guess OSU's season must be over.

Actually that already is as much Ohio St basketball gets. They are Browns/Cavs/Guardians oriented. Any college basketball is abnormal.

(01-03-2023 04:37 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:41 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:30 PM)AlphaFlash Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 03:22 PM)burden Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 08:10 AM)fallsdog Wrote:  The Golden Flashes open conference play tonight at the MAC Center against Western Michigan. The Broncos wrapped up non league play at 4-9, going 1-6 on the road.

The common opponent is Cleveland State, who defeated the Broncos by 22 points in late November.

Western Michigan has held their own against Big Ten Opponents including a ten point loss to #14 Wisconsin (76-66) and a one point loss to Minnesota.

The Flashes will have to slow down Lamar Norman Jr. (17.1 ppg) and Trey Maddox (11.1 ppg). Both of these guards are Michigan kids who transferred back home. Norman Jr., a 6'1 guard, played for three seasons at Duquense while the 6'6 Maddox made the return trip to Michigan from Cal State Fullerton.

Another guy to watch tonight is 6'8 junior center Titus Wright. He has....are you ready for this...played all three seasons at WMU. This season has has started all 13 games and averages 7.4 points on 60% shooting. Wright and 6'7 forward Markese Hastings will challenge the Flashes under the hoop.

From what I can tell this is your typical Jekyll and Hyde WMU team that we grew to love under Coach Hawkins. Can they beat the Golden Flashes? Sure. Should they beat the Golden Flashes? No way. My deep dive analytical research tells me that if Kent State limits WMU to one shot and takes care of the basketball, the good guys will be 1-0 after tonight's contest.

Kent State 73
Western Michigan 58
Carry puts in 17 and Jacobs just misses a double double with 11 and 8

GO FLASHES!

I think we have a lot of company. 92.3 The Fan actually told all their listeners the MAC season starts tonight on their every 20 minute update. It was mentioned right along with the Browns and the Cavs. Then their gambling ads talked about betting on Toledo tonight (I think). Amazing since that was more coverage of MAC basketball then I have ever heard on the station.

Wow. Two sentences every 20 minutes. I guess OSU's season must be over.

Actually that already is as much Ohio St basketball gets. They are Browns/Cavs/Guardians oriented. Any college basketball is abnormal.

Surely they cover Ohio State football, though?

(01-03-2023 08:17 PM)Muskrat Wrote:  So, has Senderoff tightened up his rotation for MAC play to 8 players?

(01-03-2023 09:31 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  Some thoughts. Whatever it is Sullinger has it. That kid wants the ball when we need a bucket. In my time I don't remember us ever having a 4th guard that was this good. Making and entirely too early bid at 6th man.

Jacobs and Carry get "Villain" treatment from the refs even at home. I'm sure they rubbed a lot of people the wrong way last year with their antics... But it doesn't make it right. Good luck finding another defending league MVP that gets in immediate foul trouble on little touch fouls at home like that. Sure wouldn't happen to Gonzaga. Then all game Carry got no calls on his drives. There as one really egregious one in the second half. Tough to square that away when he's also getting tagged with touch fouls on the other end. And again... He's the star... Normally not what you see...

As for Jacobs a really odd thing happened early in the first half. There was a jump ball going into a timeout and one ref pointed WMU's way. Jacobs went up to him and pointed the other way (Jacobs was correct). The ref angrily waived him off and when he said something else the ref started red-faced yelling at him. Jacobs looked pretty bewildered and the coaches grabbed him and pulled him into the huddle. Coming out of the timeout he went up to the ref and looked to say something calmly. Sure I don't know what he said but his demeanor looked like he was trying to explain. The ref immediately angrily waived him off, ran over to the bench and red-face yelled "Rob that's a warning on #2". It was freaking weird and it was early in the game before there was really any tension. The only explanation I can come up with is the ref (who I've seen plenty of times before) has a pre-existing issue with Jacobs. Either that or he takes his "authority" wayyy too seriously. Again I've seen this ref many times and don't remember seeing him react to a player like that before.

(01-03-2023 09:37 PM)cleveland Wrote:  

(01-03-2023 09:31 PM)anti-zip Wrote:  Some thoughts. Whatever it is Sullinger has it. That kid wants the ball when we need a bucket. In my time I don't remember us ever having a 4th guard that was this good. Making and entirely too early bid at 6th man.

Jacobs and Carry get "Villain" treatment from the refs even at home. I'm sure they rubbed a lot of people the wrong way last year with their antics... But it doesn't make it right. Good luck finding another defending league MVP that gets in immediate foul trouble on little touch fouls at home like that. Sure wouldn't happen to Gonzaga. Then all game Carry got no calls on his drives. There as one really egregious one in the second half. Tough to square that away when he's also getting tagged with touch fouls on the other end. And again... He's the star... Normally not what you see...

As for Jacobs a really odd thing happened early in the first half. There was a jump ball going into a timeout and one ref pointed WMU's way. Jacobs went up to him and pointed the other way (Jacobs was correct). The ref angrily waived him off and when he said something else the ref started red-faced yelling at him. Jacobs looked pretty bewildered and the coaches grabbed him and pulled him into the huddle. Coming out of the timeout he went up to the ref and looked to say something calmly. Sure I don't know what he said but his demeanor looked like he was trying to explain. The ref immediately angrily waived him off, ran over to the bench and red-face yelled "Rob that's a warning on #2". It was freaking weird and it was early in the game before there was really any tension. The only explanation I can come up with is the ref (who I've seen plenty of times before) has a pre-existing issue with Jacobs. Either that or he takes his "authority" wayyy too seriously. Again I've seen this ref many times and don't remember seeing him react to a player like that before.

This explains the box score for Carry/Jacobs a little bit .... however there are waaaay too many MAC games ahead vs. far better teams for one of these guys to have issues w/the refs, much less both of them.

Need to get a handle on it, for sure. Also need to get that interior defense in order. Hornbeack needs to be much more assertive ...