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Chadwell to Liberty? - WesternBlazer - 12-01-2022 10:58 PM
https://footballscoop.com/news/coaching-search-liberty-flames-hugh-freeze-jamey-chadwell
Pete Thamel@PeteThamel
Sources: Liberty has targeted Coastal Carolina’s Jamey Chadwell to be the school’s next coach. There’s mutual interest, but deal is not done and Chadwell is waiting until after the Sun Belt title game to make a final decision.
Chadwell has informed other suitors that he’s out of those jobs, as Liberty looms as his outside preference. Multiple reports today from Liberty and elsewhere have mentioned varying levels of Liberty’s interest in Chadwell.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - rook360 - 12-02-2022 09:53 AM
(12-01-2022 10:58 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: https://footballscoop.com/news/coaching-search-liberty-flames-hugh-freeze-jamey-chadwell
Pete Thamel@PeteThamel
Sources: Liberty has targeted Coastal Carolina’s Jamey Chadwell to be the school’s next coach. There’s mutual interest, but deal is not done and Chadwell is waiting until after the Sun Belt title game to make a final decision.
Chadwell has informed other suitors that he’s out of those jobs, as Liberty looms as his outside preference. Multiple reports today from Liberty and elsewhere have mentioned varying levels of Liberty’s interest in Chadwell.
Thats gonna hurt a few egos for sure if he takes the job.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - GreenFreakUAB - 12-02-2022 09:59 AM
(12-02-2022 09:53 AM)rook360 Wrote:(12-01-2022 10:58 PM)WesternBlazer Wrote: https://footballscoop.com/news/coaching-search-liberty-flames-hugh-freeze-jamey-chadwell
Pete Thamel@PeteThamel
Sources: Liberty has targeted Coastal Carolina’s Jamey Chadwell to be the school’s next coach. There’s mutual interest, but deal is not done and Chadwell is waiting until after the Sun Belt title game to make a final decision.
Chadwell has informed other suitors that he’s out of those jobs, as Liberty looms as his outside preference. Multiple reports today from Liberty and elsewhere have mentioned varying levels of Liberty’s interest in Chadwell.
Thats gonna hurt a few egos for sure if he takes the job.
...the SBC message board will make for interesting reading if it happens...
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - NewTimes - 12-02-2022 10:42 AM
If Chadwell moves to Liberty, who takes over at Coastal as the new HC?
The 4 year success Freeze had at LU has elevated the program immensely. Freeze was given most things he wanted and needed at LU and he produced with 8+ regular season wins and 3 bowl wins and a 4th bowl upcoming. That's increased the desirability and appeal of the program.
No way Chadwell would have considered LU 4 years ago, as even today, it is considered a lateral move with the success that CCU has enjoyed. So, it's facilities and resources that are the factors if Chadwell moves to LU. And the past fears that SBC schools had about LU's resources and commitment to athletics, along with LU's past polarizing positions, will be justified if Chadwell makes the LU leap. That creates a level of separation.
Was the SBC shortsighted in not inviting LU years ago? If Chadwell is able to continue the LU success, he'll continue to elevate the program and allow LU to further distance itself from G5 programs (especially SBC schools) in athletics success. The greater factor most fans consider is a winning sports tradition rather than academic standards or zany world views and idiotic social stances. LU currently loses on the academics and loony past actions, but is currently winning the athletic success.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - SMUfan - 12-02-2022 10:52 AM
Would Bill Clark be interested in Coastal?
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - DuelingDragon - 12-02-2022 12:54 PM
Liberty has those big bank checks. They can outbid any G5, I think, if they want to.
I could see Bill being interested in Coastal. Great place to live.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - blazerblazer - 12-02-2022 01:01 PM
It's an increase in money but a decrease in clout and schedule.
If Troy, Coastal, or South Alabama couldn't get ranked this year, then it will more difficult for Liberty to get ranked in the new CUSA layout.
UTSA just got ranked in Coaches and AP, but not in the CFP poll. But I'm sure if UTSA, Troy, or Coastal win their conference championship this weekend then maybe the CFP committee will throw them a bone and rank UTSA 24 and Troy/Coastal 25.
I'd rather see him at USF, which would make a strong AAC with UCF, Cinci, and Houston leaving.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - Engblazr - 12-02-2022 01:13 PM
All due respect to Liberty, but how are they already distanced from G5 and looking to further that gap? In the last two seasons they have lost to UConn, New Mexico State, and UL Monroe. The nature of their independent scheduling gave them Akron, UMass, ODU, Gardner-Webb this season. Most decent G5 programs would easily be 8-4 with a same schedule.
That 10 win season? They beat FIU, UNA, UL Monroe, 1 win Syracuse, 3 win USM, 5 win WKU, Western Carolina (1 win FCS), and UMass. Credit for beating a good Coastal Carolina and credit for beating VaTech (albeit 5 win VaTech) but dang that’s soft.
I’m not saying they’re bad or have done bad, that’s not the case. They’ve had a good run. But I don’t think they’re as good or will continue getting all the hype with a conference schedule. I mean, they will have a financial advantage, but as we see that doesn’t always translate. (USF in American. TAMU in SEC. Texas in Big12. Miami in ACC)
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - DuelingDragon - 12-02-2022 02:12 PM
They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - Engblazr - 12-02-2022 02:57 PM
(12-02-2022 02:12 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
They have beaten 3 with only 6-6 Arkansas being bowl eligible. The other two were 1 win Syracuse and 5-7 VaTech. Marshall beat a 9 win Notre Dame this season but nobody is hyping them up as not a “sunbelt team” and they’re not a “national team.” Throw them our OOC P5 games and see what happens. I’m going to assume not much. I mean, one season under Freeze they went 8-5, beat NMSU twice played two FCS schools, and UMass. That was 5 of their 8 wins. The real world will be calling soon.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - BlazintheAtl1 - 12-02-2022 03:04 PM
(12-02-2022 02:57 PM)Engblazr Wrote:(12-02-2022 02:12 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
They have beaten 3 with only 6-6 Arkansas being bowl eligible. The other two were 1 win Syracuse and 5-7 VaTech. Marshall beat a 9 win Notre Dame this season but nobody is hyping them up as not a “sunbelt team” and they’re not a “national team.” Throw them our OOC P5 games and see what happens. I’m going to assume not much. I mean, one season under Freeze they went 8-5, beat NMSU twice played two FCS schools, and UMass. That was 5 of their 8 wins. The real world will be calling soon.
They also beat us two years in a row. I get what you're saying, but Liberty has proven they will invest heavily in their program and use their massive resources to win. I think they will enter the new CUSA as one of the top programs in the league. I think they would enter any G5 conference as one of the top programs. If they weren't "Liberty" and didn't carry with them all of that extra non sports related baggage they would be going to the AAC with us.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - Engblazr - 12-02-2022 03:18 PM
(12-02-2022 03:04 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:(12-02-2022 02:57 PM)Engblazr Wrote:(12-02-2022 02:12 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
They have beaten 3 with only 6-6 Arkansas being bowl eligible. The other two were 1 win Syracuse and 5-7 VaTech. Marshall beat a 9 win Notre Dame this season but nobody is hyping them up as not a “sunbelt team” and they’re not a “national team.” Throw them our OOC P5 games and see what happens. I’m going to assume not much. I mean, one season under Freeze they went 8-5, beat NMSU twice played two FCS schools, and UMass. That was 5 of their 8 wins. The real world will be calling soon.
They also beat us two years in a row. I get what you're saying, but Liberty has proven they will invest heavily in their program and use their massive resources to win. I think they will enter the new CUSA as one of the top programs in the league. I think they would enter any G5 conference as one of the top programs. If they weren't "Liberty" and didn't carry with them all of that extra non sports related baggage they would be going to the AAC with us.
They will invest. I’m just saying they’re not heads and shoulders above the rest of the G5 like they claim. They have had one of the easiest schedules in FBS every season Freeze has been there and have had meh records.
2019
Liberty 8-5 FPI 104 SOS 125
UAB 9-5 FPI 97 SOS 122
2020
Liberty 10-1 FPI 76 SOS 95
UAB 6-3 FPI 61 SOS 87
2021
Liberty 8-5 FPI 56 SOS 106
UAB 9-4 FPI 60 SOS 46
2022
Liberty 8-4 FPI 83 SOS 118
UAB 6-6 FPI 66 SOS 94
Here is the record, FPI, and FPI SOS of both programs during the Freeze tenure. They’d have been similar in CUSA to us over that time. They’d have potentially missed a bowl every season in the American or MWC. They have played an easier strength of schedule than us every single season despite us playing in a garbage iteration of CUSA. I just don’t get the hype apart from the money they blow.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - BlazerGreen - 12-02-2022 04:00 PM
What Liberty has is huge $ and the will to use it. In America that will overcome most obstacles to your goals.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - NewTimes - 12-02-2022 05:17 PM
(12-02-2022 03:04 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:This is a good post and you make valid points. Liberty has desires to make a statement and win in the CUSA. And over time, excel enough to be considered for higher conferences. As wild as it may seem, LU has the goal to play at the highest level in whatever conference that may be in the future. True they've had a mish mash schedule as an indy with more low level teams and few high level teams. But they have had notable success against P5 teams.(12-02-2022 02:57 PM)Engblazr Wrote:(12-02-2022 02:12 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
They have beaten 3 with only 6-6 Arkansas being bowl eligible. The other two were 1 win Syracuse and 5-7 VaTech. Marshall beat a 9 win Notre Dame this season but nobody is hyping them up as not a “sunbelt team” and they’re not a “national team.” Throw them our OOC P5 games and see what happens. I’m going to assume not much. I mean, one season under Freeze they went 8-5, beat NMSU twice played two FCS schools, and UMass. That was 5 of their 8 wins. The real world will be calling soon.
They also beat us two years in a row. I get what you're saying, but Liberty has proven they will invest heavily in their program and use their massive resources to win. I think they will enter the new CUSA as one of the top programs in the league. I think they would enter any G5 conference as one of the top programs. If they weren't "Liberty" and didn't carry with them all of that extra non sports related baggage they would be going to the AAC with us.
As a FBS program in it's 4th year, it's one of the most successful programs moving from FCS. LU floundered in the FCS and had only one FCS playoff victory. To then rise so quickly in FBS shows they have a plan and are willing to spend to achieve it. And they are a lightning rod alienating many fan bases, which creates great theatre and opposing team interest.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - WesternBlazer - 12-04-2022 03:09 PM
Official!
https://www.liberty.edu/flames/news/chadwell-named-libertys-new-head-football-coach/
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - Atlanta Trojan - 12-04-2022 03:27 PM
Liberty paying the man over 4 million and he never won a championship in the SBC lol.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - Atlanta Trojan - 12-04-2022 03:28 PM
(12-02-2022 01:01 PM)blazerblazer Wrote: It's an increase in money but a decrease in clout and schedule.
If Troy, Coastal, or South Alabama couldn't get ranked this year, then it will more difficult for Liberty to get ranked in the new CUSA layout.
UTSA just got ranked in Coaches and AP, but not in the CFP poll. But I'm sure if UTSA, Troy, or Coastal win their conference championship this weekend then maybe the CFP committee will throw them a bone and rank UTSA 24 and Troy/Coastal 25.
I'd rather see him at USF, which would make a strong AAC with UCF, Cinci, and Houston leaving.
We came in at #24… UTSA is #25
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - UAB Band Dad - 12-04-2022 05:39 PM
Coastal has hired Tim Beck, the OC at NC State.
RE: Chadwell to Liberty? - NewTimes - 12-04-2022 10:56 PM
(12-02-2022 03:04 PM)BlazintheAtl1 Wrote:Tis true.(12-02-2022 02:57 PM)Engblazr Wrote:(12-02-2022 02:12 PM)DuelingDragon Wrote: They also beat 4 power 5 teams and were close to 3-4 other wins.
Liberty is not going to be a “cusa team” — they will be a national team with money to do things, including scheduling out of conference, that others cannot do.
Have no idea how successful they will be but they will have hiring capabilities few below the American will be able to do.
They have beaten 3 with only 6-6 Arkansas being bowl eligible. The other two were 1 win Syracuse and 5-7 VaTech. Marshall beat a 9 win Notre Dame this season but nobody is hyping them up as not a “sunbelt team” and they’re not a “national team.” Throw them our OOC P5 games and see what happens. I’m going to assume not much. I mean, one season under Freeze they went 8-5, beat NMSU twice played two FCS schools, and UMass. That was 5 of their 8 wins. The real world will be calling soon.
They also beat us two years in a row. I get what you're saying, but Liberty has proven they will invest heavily in their program and use their massive resources to win. I think they will enter the new CUSA as one of the top programs in the league. I think they would enter any G5 conference as one of the top programs. If they weren't "Liberty" and didn't carry with them all of that extra non sports related baggage they would be going to the AAC with us.