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Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU1981 - 11-21-2022 02:03 PM
https://niuhuskies.com/documents/2022/11/20/NIUFB22_-_Week_12_Game_Notes__Akron__-_FINAL.pdf
FB Brett Bostad
OL Marques Cox
OL Leif Engstrand
CB Jordan Gandy
DE Izayah Green-May
DT Jeff Griffin
DE Mike Kennedy
LB Kyle Pugh
LB Nick Rattin
TE Liam Soraghan
WR Shemar Thornton
WR Cole Tucker
This implies Rocky and Miles Joiner coming back
ED: The writeup accompanying game notes also includes Dustin Fletcher among those leaving.
The Huskies will honor 12 seniors - Brett Bostad, Marques Cox, Leif Engstrand, Dustin Fletcher, Jordan Gandy, Izayah Green-May, Jeffrey Griffin Jr., Michael Kennedy, Kyle Pugh, Nick Rattin, Liam Soraghan and Cole Tucker - prior to Saturday's game.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - timxlydon - 11-21-2022 02:24 PM
WR could be REAL rough next year even with Rudolph coming back. McCray and Travis never panned out. I like Rutkiewicz, but after that there's nobody that excites me. At least not that we've seen.
Also, I'm not surprised about Fletcher leaving. If he can't get playing time this year then he's never going to see the field.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - HuskieDave - 11-21-2022 02:45 PM
I believe several of the leaving “seniors” still have eligibility for next year.
Cox, Rattin, and Gandy are listed on the roster as juniors. Engstrand is listed as a sophomore.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - Milwaukee Pilot - 11-21-2022 03:24 PM
Looks like Tucker is at 1,997 career yards----hoping he gets in a for a catch and a few yards.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - BigChilla - 11-21-2022 04:03 PM
(11-21-2022 02:24 PM)timxlydon Wrote: WR could be REAL rough next year even with Rudolph coming back. McCray and Travis never panned out. I like Rutkiewicz, but after that there's nobody that excites me. At least not that we've seen.
Also, I'm not surprised about Fletcher leaving. If he can't get playing time this year then he's never going to see the field.
WR concerns more than linebacker? I mean Rudolph, toure, kasper are probably fine.
We have had bad linebacker recruiting for 5 years. With Rattin going I am scared.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU05 - 11-21-2022 04:35 PM
Ratin didn't have his best year.We do need inside LBers, WR and CB. Transfer portal has to be hit hard. Surprised Cox and Engstrand leaving, would not be surprised if they showed up on another roster. Cox did have a serious knee injury.
I wish will all of them well, we were fornutate to have these players as they contributed to a HUSKIE MAC CHAMPIONSHIP! Good luck in your future endeavors.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - timxlydon - 11-21-2022 05:53 PM
(11-21-2022 04:03 PM)BigChilla Wrote:(11-21-2022 02:24 PM)timxlydon Wrote: WR could be REAL rough next year even with Rudolph coming back. McCray and Travis never panned out. I like Rutkiewicz, but after that there's nobody that excites me. At least not that we've seen.
Also, I'm not surprised about Fletcher leaving. If he can't get playing time this year then he's never going to see the field.
WR concerns more than linebacker? I mean Rudolph, toure, kasper are probably fine.
We have had bad linebacker recruiting for 5 years. With Rattin going I am scared.
Toure doesn't even have a single catch this year. I can't just assume he will probably be fine.
Everything about the defense concerns me and they can't be counted on to make stops when it counts. Cole Tucker could be counted on to extend drives, so in my opinion it's the bigger loss to the team than Pugh and Rattin leaving.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - HW58 - 11-21-2022 06:06 PM
Pugh, Tucker, Kennedy and Soraghan actually won 2 MAC titles (2018 & 2021). Nicely done! Some of the others who are graduating were red-shirted in 2018.
Congrats to all the seniors. Appreciate your efforts as Huskies!
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU1981 - 11-21-2022 07:29 PM
(11-21-2022 06:06 PM)HW58 Wrote: Pugh, Tucker, Kennedy and Soraghan actually won 2 MAC titles (2018 & 2021). Nicely done! Some of the others who are graduating were red-shirted in 2018.
Congrats to all the seniors. Appreciate your efforts as Huskies!
Same here, thanks for the memories and best of luck in your careers.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - BigChilla - 11-21-2022 08:17 PM
(11-21-2022 05:53 PM)timxlydon Wrote:(11-21-2022 04:03 PM)BigChilla Wrote:(11-21-2022 02:24 PM)timxlydon Wrote: WR could be REAL rough next year even with Rudolph coming back. McCray and Travis never panned out. I like Rutkiewicz, but after that there's nobody that excites me. At least not that we've seen.
Also, I'm not surprised about Fletcher leaving. If he can't get playing time this year then he's never going to see the field.
WR concerns more than linebacker? I mean Rudolph, toure, kasper are probably fine.
We have had bad linebacker recruiting for 5 years. With Rattin going I am scared.
Toure doesn't even have a single catch this year. I can't just assume he will probably be fine.
Everything about the defense concerns me and they can't be counted on to make stops when it counts. Cole Tucker could be counted on to extend drives, so in my opinion it's the bigger loss to the team than Pugh and Rattin leaving.
He was on double secret probation for wanting to transfer.
But he’s a starter next season.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - BigChilla - 11-21-2022 08:19 PM
(11-21-2022 04:35 PM)NIU05 Wrote: Ratin didn't have his best year.We do need inside LBers, WR and CB. Transfer portal has to be hit hard. Surprised Cox and Engstrand leaving, would not be surprised if they showed up on another roster. Cox did have a serious knee injury.
I wish will all of them well, we were fornutate to have these players as they contributed to a HUSKIE MAC CHAMPIONSHIP! Good luck in your future endeavors.
Hammock is a terrible recruiter when it comes to defensive back 7.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU1981 - 11-21-2022 09:44 PM
Mason Blakemore is missing from the roster in Akron game notes FWIW
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU05 - 11-21-2022 10:02 PM
Looking at the roster and considering the transfer portal, I see only 2 players I would possibly recruit if I were a P5 school and they are James Ester and Jordan White. On the offensive side it would be the 2 Rbs, Rudolph, and possibly an OL or 2. The OL would be Z and Potter and maybe Lippe. I dont know enough about our center.
Blakemore? wonder what that is about. Transfer?
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - BigChilla - 11-21-2022 10:55 PM
(11-21-2022 10:02 PM)NIU05 Wrote: Looking at the roster and considering the transfer portal, I see only 2 players I would possibly recruit if I were a P5 school and they are James Ester and Jordan White. On the offensive side it would be the 2 Rbs, Rudolph, and possibly an OL or 2. The OL would be Z and Potter and maybe Lippe. I dont know enough about our center.
Blakemore? wonder what that is about. Transfer?
White can’t run. He would be exposed vs way more speed.
Ester is meh. Literally every player is meh. No one is worth taking, I don’t mean that in any other way than it is what it is.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - HuskiePride12 - 11-22-2022 12:19 AM
Surprised rattins leaving with Pugh graduating. I really thought Rattin should have been playing over him all year anyways. TH needs to get a transfer bad at the LB position now. Shouldn’t be that hard if you offer them a guarantee to start.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - Big Red - 11-22-2022 01:53 AM
(11-21-2022 09:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote: Mason Blakemore is missing from the roster in Akron game notes FWIW
Isn't the roster a depth chart for the game?
If it is, they typically don't list players who are hurt and ruled out of the game, right?
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - pvk75 - 11-22-2022 05:31 AM
(11-22-2022 01:53 AM)Big Red Wrote:(11-21-2022 09:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote: Mason Blakemore is missing from the roster in Akron game notes FWIW
Isn't the roster a depth chart for the game?
If it is, they typically don't list players who are hurt and ruled out of the game, right?
This is an excellent point. When we look at the list, exactly what are we looking at?
Some thoughts:
--- The need for playing time and showing the coaches an attitude and skill set continues, even in the last game of a 4-8/3-9 season. Hammock said he and his staff are always evaluating for "next man up," which will certainly carry over to next spring practice for returning players. You can bet that a number of our posters will be doing the same thing.
--- For Hammock & Co., however, this game is part of what has to be an analysis of what needs to happen per position and unit via the transfer portal. You can bet that a number of our posters will be doing the same thing.
--- But for others, why would someone playing their last game want to risk injury (similar point as those who don't play in bowl games when they're hoping on the NFL draft and UFDAs). Or when they are working toward a career not in pro football. A number of our posters will follow their exploits post-NIU.
So ... there should be plenty of interest in at least watching this game. It's the last one before "portal time," both coming and going.
Again, just some thoughts.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - BigChilla - 11-22-2022 07:06 AM
How disappointed will we all be if Hammock can’t secure any transfers?
This team needs some ready made talent on defense - no one wants to squander Rocky coming back…as long as he doesn’t transfer.
Personally, I don’t know if Hammock is going to be able to lower himself to the level of saying “I screwed up, we didn’t recruit and develop what we needed and now we need help….”
We shall see. I started the season as a huge Hammock fan but he did too much that was inexcusable. He isn’t a first year coach Anymore.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - NIU05 - 11-22-2022 08:26 AM
(11-22-2022 01:53 AM)Big Red Wrote:(11-21-2022 09:44 PM)NIU1981 Wrote: Mason Blakemore is missing from the roster in Akron game notes FWIW
Isn't the roster a depth chart for the game?
If it is, they typically don't list players who are hurt and ruled out of the game, right?
81's point is not the depth chart, but the ROSTER. All players in the program are listed on the roster even if injured. Rudolph has been listed all year and still is listed. Blakemore appears to no longer be part of the program.
RE: Guys hanging it up per Akron game notes - HawaiiToNIU - 11-22-2022 09:00 AM
Cox has been here for a while, Engstrand too. They are probably at that point where they are excited for life after graduation, which is exciting, till you are at an office cold calling all day.
Best of luck to these guys. With redshirts and the COVID year, they probably are all well past graduation.