+- CSNbbs (https://csnbbs.com)
+-- Forum: Active Boards (/forum-769.html)
+--- Forum: Big12bbs (/forum-260.html)
+---- Forum: Big 12 Team Talk (/forum-783.html)
+----- Forum: The Gregory A. Ruehlmann Sr. Memorial Cincinnati Board (/forum-404.html)
+----- Thread: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread (/thread-958923.html)
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - natibeast2.0 - 02-24-2023 10:57 AM
I’m always one of innocent until proven guilty and as noted he hasn’t even been charged.
I’m just surprised Coach and Alabama not having saying at least poor judgement or something of that sorts in regards to Miller and admitting it was a mistake. Wrong place wrong time and he’s a great kid that did nothing wrong came off way too wrong to me.
A verbal altercation and a mother gets shot in the cross fire. How about the shooters just leave the scene of where the verbal altercation took place instead of basically calling for backup.
Note: I have not looked deeply into this but it just seemed completely avoidable but instead a mother is dead.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - BearcatJerry - 02-24-2023 11:39 AM
(02-24-2023 10:57 AM)natibeast2.0 Wrote: I’m always one of innocent until proven guilty and as noted he hasn’t even been charged.
I’m just surprised Coach and Alabama not having saying at least poor judgement or something of that sorts in regards to Miller and admitting it was a mistake. Wrong place wrong time and he’s a great kid that did nothing wrong came off way too wrong to me.
A verbal altercation and a mother gets shot in the cross fire. How about the shooters just leave the scene of where the verbal altercation took place instead of basically calling for backup.
Note: I have not looked deeply into this but it just seemed completely avoidable but instead a mother is dead.
As in most of these cases, some sort of distinction between the legal/criminal process and the discipline process needs to be made. One may be criminally "not guilty" and yet either suspended or dismissed from an athletic team. Playing on a team is not a legal right...Coaches have dismissed players for far less than this. Indeed, you can do "everything right" and either be sat or dismissed from a team because of your attitude or just because the Coach doesn't particularly like you. Of course, Coaches also have to be careful because they can lose a team's respect, the respect of fans, and even their jobs because they were acting spitefully, but, in general, playing for a team is a privilege, not a right.
On the other hand, we need to recognize the pressure and the tendency of the criminal justice system to either (a) NOT pursue charges against high-profile players and/or (b) default criminal charges to the interior "discipline" of the school/team/coach. Lawrence Phillips at Nebraska, Deion Sanders and Jameis Winston at Florida State, and any number of players at programs like Notre Dame, Penn State, and Miami have been caught stealing, driving drunk, assaulting their girlfriends, etc...and passed on from criminal prosectution and arrest and "passed on" to the custody of their Coach...because "losing such a kid to a moment of bad decision" would cost the School, the town, or the State a potential title. So we have a right to be cynical that the authorities in Tuscaloosa might be under pressure to "let this one go" with as little impact to Alabama's highly rated team as possible.
And then there's the emerging reality of the "Court of Public Relations" where a team might throw a Coach and/or players "under the bus" just to keep it's own name and reputation clean. And, let's be clear on this, there are no rules and no winning in the "Court of Public Relations." Neither justice nor truth can be found there.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - The Big O - 02-24-2023 11:44 AM
I imagine Alabama is hoping this gets strung out to after the tournament ends. They're a final four/national title contender and there's a good chance he'll be gone after this season anyway.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Captain Bearcat - 02-24-2023 02:58 PM
Ohio State is 13th out of 14 in the Big Ten. They're 11-17, and have lost 14 of their last 15.
Yet they beat UC by 28 points on a neutral court.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-24-2023 03:27 PM
(02-24-2023 02:58 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: Ohio State is 13th out of 14 in the Big Ten. They're 11-17, and have lost 14 of their last 15.
Yet they beat UC by 28 points on a neutral court.
It was november. UC was playing terrible basketball in November. OSU was playing pretty well. Teams change over the course of a season.
In November the second place team in the Big 10 lost by 29 to Pitt. A team tied for third in the Big 10 lost to kenpom 325 Central Michigan at home on December 29.
Don't overvalue one game sample sizes.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Cat-Man - 02-24-2023 04:06 PM
(02-24-2023 02:23 AM)Bearhawkeye Wrote: Happened to see Mikey Sanders Jr. had a nice game for Utah in a 78-70 loss against Mick's Bruins. Mikey came off the bench to score 25 points in 24 minutes: 10/17 FGs, 3/6 3s, 2/2 FTs, 3R, 2A with 2 TOs.
Speaking of the Utes, Gabe Madsen was having himself a nice season until he got hurt on Jan 28. He's the teams 2nd leading scorer averaging 11.7 ppg. He scored in double figures in 15 games this season. He's out 4-6 weeks, so not sure if that ends his season. I believe he's a junior, so hopefully he bounces back with a big Senior season.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - vabearcat - 02-24-2023 04:35 PM
(02-24-2023 03:27 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:(02-24-2023 02:58 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote: Ohio State is 13th out of 14 in the Big Ten. They're 11-17, and have lost 14 of their last 15.
Yet they beat UC by 28 points on a neutral court.
It was november. UC was playing terrible basketball in November. OSU was playing pretty well. Teams change over the course of a season.
In November the second place team in the Big 10 lost by 29 to Pitt. A team tied for third in the Big 10 lost to kenpom 325 Central Michigan at home on December 29.
Don't overvalue one game sample sizes.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - vabearcat - 02-24-2023 04:55 PM
The 28-point loss to OSU was unimportant? Are they a rival? I guess since we haven’t beaten them since 1962—maybe they aren’t a rival. But then again we haven’t beaten X either for how many years? Since Troy Caupain was a senior? Who have we beaten this year, Mark? Tulane at home, or Wichita on the road? I guess those are our signature wins? Oh, and we lost to ECU blowing a 16-point lead with 9 minutes to go. But, of course, Mark will tell us, “it’s just one game. Don’t put too much stock in one game”. Check ECU’s season-long results. Only mediocre to lousy teams have lost to ECU. We fit the bill perfectly. Maybe not a lousy UC team but a perfectly mediocre one.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - UCBearcatlawjd2 - 02-24-2023 08:47 PM
(02-24-2023 04:55 PM)vabearcat Wrote: The 28-point loss to OSU was unimportant? Are they a rival? I guess since we haven’t beaten them since 1962—maybe they aren’t a rival. But then again we haven’t beaten X either for how many years? Since Troy Caupain was a senior? Who have we beaten this year, Mark? Tulane at home, or Wichita on the road? I guess those are our signature wins? Oh, and we lost to ECU blowing a 16-point lead with 9 minutes to go. But, of course, Mark will tell us, “it’s just one game. Don’t put too much stock in one game”. Check ECU’s season-long results. Only mediocre to lousy teams have lost to ECU. We fit the bill perfectly. Maybe not a lousy UC team but a perfectly mediocre one.
There are what I call December Champions every year that fade in conference play.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 02:33 PM
Sparty loses a 13 point lead on the last minute and a half, including a 10 point lead in the last 40 seconds. Iowa wins in ot
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - chatcat - 02-25-2023 02:38 PM
(02-25-2023 02:33 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Sparty loses a 13 point lead on the last minute and a half, including a 10 point lead in the last 40 seconds. Iowa wins in ot
Iowa makes 5 3's in the last minute or so to send the game to overtime and they win it.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 02:42 PM
Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Bear Catlett - 02-25-2023 02:53 PM
(02-25-2023 02:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
That's why stats are meaningless.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 03:07 PM
(02-25-2023 02:53 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
That's why stats are meaningless.
Or... Iowa had great offensive / bad defensive stats too.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Bear Catlett - 02-25-2023 03:16 PM
(02-25-2023 03:07 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:53 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
That's why stats are meaningless.
Or... Iowa had great offensive / bad defensive stats too.
There's only one stat that matters.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Bear Catlett - 02-25-2023 03:54 PM
(02-25-2023 03:16 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 03:07 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:53 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
That's why stats are meaningless.
Or... Iowa had great offensive / bad defensive stats too.
There's only one stat that matters.
Oh, by the way.
Bet Purdue tonight. With the points.
IU sucks on the road anyway and they sure's to heck aint winning in Lafayette.
...Though TJD is still better than Edey.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 04:58 PM
Arizona loses to its rival on a Mile Simon against uc style shot (had a 2 point lead).
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 06:37 PM
Miami blows a 25 point second half lead to an awful Florida state team. Takes the lead with 4 seconds left and loses on a buzzer beating 3.
Just a bonkers day of college basketball
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - Bear Catlett - 02-25-2023 09:56 PM
(02-25-2023 03:54 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 03:16 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 03:07 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:53 PM)Bear Catlett Wrote:(02-25-2023 02:42 PM)bearcatmark Wrote: Michigan State shot 59% from the field, 73% from 3, and 86% from the line…and lost.
That's why stats are meaningless.
Or... Iowa had great offensive / bad defensive stats too.
There's only one stat that matters.
Oh, by the way.
Bet Purdue tonight. With the points.
IU sucks on the road anyway and they sure's to heck aint winning in Lafayette.
...Though TJD is still better than Edey.
OOPS !!
Well I guess IU s just better than Purdue... just like I said.
Purdue is even more trash than I thought. They just foresaw their NCAA tournament exit.
Edey is a stiff and their freshman guards disappear when they go up against somebody their own size.
RE: 2022-23 College Basketball General Thread - bearcatmark - 02-25-2023 09:57 PM
Edey is great but his wings/guards aren't good enough