(10-08-2022 06:20 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 05:21 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 05:15 PM)eroc Wrote:  Not getting much in the form of help from other top 25 teams.

#17 beat #19 Kansas
#18 UCLA up on #11 utes
asu up on #21 Washington

Given our performance we might move up one, at most two spots. That said, i wouldn't be shocked if they didn't move us up at all

If tech holds on they'll probably jump us. UNC possibly as well. Personally I still believe it doesn't matter. Win the league and we'll be somewhere between 15-20 and be looking at a hopefully beatable ny6 matchup instead of a Florida/uga/bama type team.

I'm not sure how good we are. Temple is the only easy team left. I think we lose 1 or 2 the rest of the way. Make the conf championship game. Doubtful on NY6. Hopefully I'm wrong. Tulsa and USF two of the worst teams in league and we struggled with both. I would be more optimistic with Prater going.

(10-08-2022 06:27 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 06:20 PM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 05:21 PM)Lurkercat Wrote:  

(10-08-2022 05:15 PM)eroc Wrote:  Not getting much in the form of help from other top 25 teams.

#17 beat #19 Kansas
#18 UCLA up on #11 utes
asu up on #21 Washington

Given our performance we might move up one, at most two spots. That said, i wouldn't be shocked if they didn't move us up at all

If tech holds on they'll probably jump us. UNC possibly as well. Personally I still believe it doesn't matter. Win the league and we'll be somewhere between 15-20 and be looking at a hopefully beatable ny6 matchup instead of a Florida/uga/bama type team.

I'm not sure how good we are. Temple is the only easy team left. I think we lose 1 or 2 the rest of the way. Make the conf championship game. Doubtful on NY6. Hopefully I'm wrong. Tulsa and USF two of the worst teams in league and we struggled with both. I would be more optimistic with Prater going.

Our best team ever couldn't even run through this league without some really ugly games last year, so I'm not too worried about today personally. We're good enough to win out and play in a NY6 but not good enough to where it's a guarantee so we could still end up in the beef jerky bowl. At UCF is still the big one and hopefully we show up for at least 3 quarters

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

(10-09-2022 09:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Alabama came about as close to losing as is possible. Down by 4, A&M had it 1st and goal from the 2 yard line with 3 seconds to go for one last play for the win.

The backup QB for Alabama started in place of Bryce Young...Milroe was highly rated but he'd probably be the QB3 at UC. They better hope Young gets healthy or they are going to get dump trucked by Tennessee. Might happen anyways. UT is really good.

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

(10-09-2022 11:19 AM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 09:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Alabama came about as close to losing as is possible. Down by 4, A&M had it 1st and goal from the 2 yard line with 3 seconds to go for one last play for the win.

The backup QB for Alabama started in place of Bryce Young...Milroe was highly rated but he'd probably be the QB3 at UC. They better hope Young gets healthy or they are going to get dump trucked by Tennessee. Might happen anyways. UT is really good.

I hope so, this **** gets old every year with same 4 teams

(10-09-2022 09:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Alabama came about as close to losing as is possible. Down by 4, A&M had it 1st and goal from the 2 yard line with 3 seconds to go for one last play for the win.

The backup QB for Alabama started in place of Bryce Young...Milroe was highly rated but he'd probably be the QB3 at UC. They better hope Young gets healthy or they are going to get dump trucked by Tennessee. Might happen anyways. UT is really good.

(10-09-2022 11:19 AM)bcat1997 Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 09:36 AM)rath v2.0 Wrote:  Alabama came about as close to losing as is possible. Down by 4, A&M had it 1st and goal from the 2 yard line with 3 seconds to go for one last play for the win.

The backup QB for Alabama started in place of Bryce Young...Milroe was highly rated but he'd probably be the QB3 at UC. They better hope Young gets healthy or they are going to get dump trucked by Tennessee. Might happen anyways. UT is really good.

I hope so, this **** gets old every year with same 4 teams

(10-09-2022 12:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

Isn't Iowa averaging about one TD a game, LOL? Fans at that game yesterday didn't see a TD for either team the entire game.

Remember, that's an IL team that lost to Indiana. I have no argument with OSU and MI but after that, much of the B10 is very average. The Nebraska vs. Rutgers game the other night was equally painful to watch. There are plenty of "B10 conference fans" around the Midwest who seem to think their own teams are anointed by the work of OSU/MI. That's another reason I'd like to see UC pursue more home and home series with those other regional B10 teams for our one P5 non-conference game each year.

(10-11-2022 04:47 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 12:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

Isn't Iowa averaging about one TD a game, LOL? Fans at that game yesterday didn't see a TD for either team the entire game.

Remember, that's an IL team that lost to Indiana. I have no argument with OSU and MI but after that, much of the B10 is very average. The Nebraska vs. Rutgers game the other night was equally painful to watch. There are plenty of "B10 conference fans" around the Midwest who seem to think their own teams are anointed by the work of OSU/MI. That's another reason I'd like to see UC pursue more home and home series with those other regional B10 teams for our one P5 non-conference game each year.

Oh, I don't know. Most of the rest of the Big Ten is usually pretty decent. They're not the SEC, but even if you remove OSU & Michigan they're usually better than the ACC or PAC.

This year:
Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State are all 3-0 out of conference.

Purdue is 2-1 out of conference, and the loss was by 3 points on the road against 5-0 Syracuse.

Iowa & Wisconsin & Michigan State & Indiana aren't great, but they're all 2-1 out-of-conference, and all of the losses are respectable.


The only teams who crapped the bed in the nonconference are Nebraska (who has rebounded since then) and Northwestern.

(10-11-2022 04:47 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 12:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

Isn't Iowa averaging about one TD a game, LOL? Fans at that game yesterday didn't see a TD for either team the entire game.

Remember, that's an IL team that lost to Indiana. I have no argument with OSU and MI but after that, much of the B10 is very average. The Nebraska vs. Rutgers game the other night was equally painful to watch. There are plenty of "B10 conference fans" around the Midwest who seem to think their own teams are anointed by the work of OSU/MI. That's another reason I'd like to see UC pursue more home and home series with those other regional B10 teams for our one P5 non-conference game each year.

Oh, I don't know. Most of the rest of the Big Ten is usually pretty decent. They're not the SEC, but even if you remove OSU & Michigan they're usually better than the ACC or PAC.

This year:
Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State are all 3-0 out of conference.

Purdue is 2-1 out of conference, and the loss was by 3 points on the road against 5-0 Syracuse.

Iowa & Wisconsin & Michigan State & Indiana aren't great, but they're all 2-1 out-of-conference, and all of the losses are respectable.

The only teams who crapped the bed in the nonconference are Nebraska (who has rebounded since then) and Northwestern.

(10-11-2022 05:02 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 04:47 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 12:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

Isn't Iowa averaging about one TD a game, LOL? Fans at that game yesterday didn't see a TD for either team the entire game.

Remember, that's an IL team that lost to Indiana. I have no argument with OSU and MI but after that, much of the B10 is very average. The Nebraska vs. Rutgers game the other night was equally painful to watch. There are plenty of "B10 conference fans" around the Midwest who seem to think their own teams are anointed by the work of OSU/MI. That's another reason I'd like to see UC pursue more home and home series with those other regional B10 teams for our one P5 non-conference game each year.

Oh, I don't know. Most of the rest of the Big Ten is usually pretty decent. They're not the SEC, but even if you remove OSU & Michigan they're usually better than the ACC or PAC.

This year:
Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State are all 3-0 out of conference.

Purdue is 2-1 out of conference, and the loss was by 3 points on the road against 5-0 Syracuse.

Iowa & Wisconsin & Michigan State & Indiana aren't great, but they're all 2-1 out-of-conference, and all of the losses are respectable.


The only teams who crapped the bed in the nonconference are Nebraska (who has rebounded since then) and Northwestern.

They put up records playing bad teams at home.

Minnesota beat New Mexico State, Western Illinois and Colorado.

Illinois beat Wyoming, Virginia and Chattanooga

Maryland beat Buffalo and Charlotte. They do have a nice one possession home win over SMU.

Rutgers has two close road wins over BC and a terrible Temple team (by 2). Good for them. That's probably the most challenging non conference schedule of that group.

I agree Penn State is really damn good...but these mid/low big ten teams aren't any better than most the AAC. They just play bad teams at home in the nonconference and avoid games they might lose.

(10-12-2022 06:48 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Is your point the big 10 is better than the aac? No ****. It has osu, Michigan and penn state. My point is those middling big ten teams you're championing for some reason aren't that great. They just get the advantage of playing nearly every nonconference game at home and playing nobody. None of them have a win on the stratosphere of Tulane over Kansas state for example.

Maryland and smu are similar quality teams. Maryland played that game at home. Everyone minimizes how big an advantage not playing quality g5 teams away from home is.

(10-11-2022 05:02 PM)bearcatmark Wrote:  

(10-11-2022 04:47 PM)Captain Bearcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 12:05 PM)OKIcat Wrote:  

(10-09-2022 06:12 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  Illinois’ 9-6 win over Iowa is the most Illinois v Iowa score ever.

Isn't Iowa averaging about one TD a game, LOL? Fans at that game yesterday didn't see a TD for either team the entire game.

Remember, that's an IL team that lost to Indiana. I have no argument with OSU and MI but after that, much of the B10 is very average. The Nebraska vs. Rutgers game the other night was equally painful to watch. There are plenty of "B10 conference fans" around the Midwest who seem to think their own teams are anointed by the work of OSU/MI. That's another reason I'd like to see UC pursue more home and home series with those other regional B10 teams for our one P5 non-conference game each year.

Oh, I don't know. Most of the rest of the Big Ten is usually pretty decent. They're not the SEC, but even if you remove OSU & Michigan they're usually better than the ACC or PAC.

This year:
Minnesota, Illinois, Rutgers, Maryland, and Penn State are all 3-0 out of conference.

Purdue is 2-1 out of conference, and the loss was by 3 points on the road against 5-0 Syracuse.

Iowa & Wisconsin & Michigan State & Indiana aren't great, but they're all 2-1 out-of-conference, and all of the losses are respectable.


The only teams who crapped the bed in the nonconference are Nebraska (who has rebounded since then) and Northwestern.

They put up records playing bad teams at home.

Minnesota beat New Mexico State, Western Illinois and Colorado.

Illinois beat Wyoming, Virginia and Chattanooga

Maryland beat Buffalo and Charlotte. They do have a nice one possession home win over SMU.

Rutgers has two close road wins over BC and a terrible Temple team (by 2). Good for them. That's probably the most challenging non conference schedule of that group.

I agree Penn State is really damn good...but these mid/low big ten teams aren't any better than most the AAC. They just play bad teams at home in the nonconference and avoid games they might lose.

(10-12-2022 06:48 AM)bearcatmark Wrote:  Is your point the big 10 is better than the aac? No ****. It has osu, Michigan and penn state. My point is those middling big ten teams you're championing for some reason aren't that great. They just get the advantage of playing nearly every nonconference game at home and playing nobody. None of them have a win on the stratosphere of Tulane over Kansas state for example.

Maryland and smu are similar quality teams. Maryland played that game at home. Everyone minimizes how big an advantage not playing quality g5 teams away from home is.