(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

(04-26-2022 06:49 AM)HuskieJ Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This is just getting started. My daughter will go to FSU this fall. FSU has three separate NIL companies set up for millions each that will funnel money to players. This is all the under the table stuff just becoming legit. Should be interesting to watch (since our university will not be playing in this game) as this money moves in will it eventually impact the amount the University can pull in for facilities, etc. There is still a finite amount f cash in play, so it will be interesting to see this balance itself out.

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

(04-26-2022 11:08 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This has destroyed amateur athletics and what used to be the NCAA.

While fully against these NIL deals in principle, I guess the time has come that NIU should have a VP in charge of getting NIL deals. Change the name of the university if it needs too. I guess we could be Northern Illinois University by Amazon. Enough $ and no conference will be unobtainable.

(04-26-2022 12:12 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 11:08 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This has destroyed amateur athletics and what used to be the NCAA.

While fully against these NIL deals in principle, I guess the time has come that NIU should have a VP in charge of getting NIL deals. Change the name of the university if it needs too. I guess we could be Northern Illinois University by Amazon. Enough $ and no conference will be unobtainable.

We can't get anyone to put their name on our arena.

Why do we think we can get someone to pay our players to win a MAC Championship?

(04-26-2022 12:18 PM)klake87 Wrote:  For schools like NIU, this will be bad. We have only so much finite donations. We will be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other big donors will just contribute additional funds to NIL programs. Not enough donors to pay for other non revenue sports, upgrades to facilities and pay athletes.

(04-26-2022 12:31 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:18 PM)klake87 Wrote:  For schools like NIU, this will be bad. We have only so much finite donations. We will be robbing Peter to pay Paul. Other big donors will just contribute additional funds to NIL programs. Not enough donors to pay for other non revenue sports, upgrades to facilities and pay athletes.

On the outside, I agree.

But winning could bring in other money to school.

Does NIU have a diehard rich guy who can and wants to figure out how to pay a kid AFTER he gets there, performs and imply there is more for others?I mean Fatty's can only add so many sandwiches named after players to menu!

I think it's harder to do in football, especially at an NIU. May sound nuts, even for NIU, but maybe basketball gets more return/$ in long run. Honestly, probably bigger deal is not being on broadcast/cable tv regularly.

(04-26-2022 12:24 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:12 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 11:08 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This has destroyed amateur athletics and what used to be the NCAA.

While fully against these NIL deals in principle, I guess the time has come that NIU should have a VP in charge of getting NIL deals. Change the name of the university if it needs too. I guess we could be Northern Illinois University by Amazon. Enough $ and no conference will be unobtainable.

We can't get anyone to put their name on our arena.

Why do we think we can get someone to pay our players to win a MAC Championship?

Better return for your investment if winning is what you want.

Local, smaller company trying to look good, probably kid. I saw a Kofi billboard at UI this past weekend but could not tell you who sponsor was. But I am sure most on campus do who know him.

If you are large corporation looking to make a return on your money you go through school.

Honestly, this KSU to Miami kid is the 1st dollar amount I have seen, one of the only companies. Life Wallet. While I am sure they are getting clicks, pretty sure the owner didn't do it for the financial return. Some school in the MAC will figure it out. Or a should say a sponsor will. You'll see a title or two bought by a Bowling Green, Akron...maybe an NIU. And then 5 years later you will see a 30 for 30 on it.

(04-26-2022 03:31 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:24 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:12 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 11:08 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This has destroyed amateur athletics and what used to be the NCAA.

While fully against these NIL deals in principle, I guess the time has come that NIU should have a VP in charge of getting NIL deals. Change the name of the university if it needs too. I guess we could be Northern Illinois University by Amazon. Enough $ and no conference will be unobtainable.

We can't get anyone to put their name on our arena.

Why do we think we can get someone to pay our players to win a MAC Championship?

Better return for your investment if winning is what you want.

Local, smaller company trying to look good, probably kid. I saw a Kofi billboard at UI this past weekend but could not tell you who sponsor was. But I am sure most on campus do who know him.

If you are large corporation looking to make a return on your money you go through school.

Honestly, this KSU to Miami kid is the 1st dollar amount I have seen, one of the only companies. Life Wallet. While I am sure they are getting clicks, pretty sure the owner didn't do it for the financial return. Some school in the MAC will figure it out. Or a should say a sponsor will. You'll see a title or two bought by a Bowling Green, Akron...maybe an NIU. And then 5 years later you will see a 30 for 30 on it.

Maybe I'm pessimistic or whatever. I'm not trying to be argumentative though. But I just don't get it.

What would "winning" mean for any kind of corporation to invest in an NIU athlete. And enough of them to actually make a difference?

I'm not sure it's been disclosed how much Rocky is getting from Fatty's but I bet it's not much. For one, they'd have to get back (or would want to) what they give him. Otherwise, it's a bad deal for the company/entity.

So, if a company wanted to invest in NIU basketball, what would be a realistic level of winning be? I can't imagine it would be a national championship. That would take tons of money and there's nowhere close to any kind of guarantee that it would happen.

And I can't imagine a MAC championship moves the needle for any company to actually invest money into.

The actual only realistic option is the big pockets donor who just wants to sink money into it and doesn't care what comes of it.

I don't know that that exists for us.

Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative or pessimistic. I'm just not at all seeing the other side to this debate.

Who knows. Maybe the Yordon or Chessick families get the itch to pump money into the programs. They didn't for a coach plus there's no indication they have any interest in the basketball program as the arena still stands unnamed and I'd assume either of them could claim that with less money than was put up for either Center.

Maybe I'm wrong.

(04-26-2022 03:31 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:24 PM)randyfensfanclub1 Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 12:12 PM)Big Red Wrote:  

(04-26-2022 11:08 AM)HUSKIEFOOTBALLFAN Wrote:  

(04-25-2022 10:00 PM)uiniu57 Wrote:  Interesting article entitled: Brave new NIL world
Top college hoops transfer Nijel Pack is leaving Kansas State for Miami, where he'll be getting more than just a new team.
Driving the news: Pack announced his commitment on Saturday, and the terms of his first NIL deal were made public shortly thereafter: $800,000 over two years, plus a car.
The deal is with LifeWallet, a healthcare company with ties to John Ruiz, a Miami businessman investing big money into Canes athletes.
Ruiz has signed millions of dollars in NIL deals, but this is the biggest one yet — and may have helped Miami land a First-Team All-Big 12 player.
Why it matters: This is the first major signing to coincide with the public release of NIL terms — a coordinated move that almost flaunts the link between the two.
Could Pack have always had his eyes set on the Canes? Sure. Or maybe his visit to campus simply blew him away.
Another theory: Free agency has come to college sports. Pack entered the transfer portal, and Miami (aka. Ruiz) offered the best deal.
The bottom line: We're nearly a year into the NIL era, and it's abundantly clear that college sports will never be the same. Add in the transfer portal and big-money boosters, and it's an entirely new world.

This has destroyed amateur athletics and what used to be the NCAA.

While fully against these NIL deals in principle, I guess the time has come that NIU should have a VP in charge of getting NIL deals. Change the name of the university if it needs too. I guess we could be Northern Illinois University by Amazon. Enough $ and no conference will be unobtainable.

We can't get anyone to put their name on our arena.

Why do we think we can get someone to pay our players to win a MAC Championship?

Better return for your investment if winning is what you want.

Local, smaller company trying to look good, probably kid. I saw a Kofi billboard at UI this past weekend but could not tell you who sponsor was. But I am sure most on campus do who know him.

If you are large corporation looking to make a return on your money you go through school.

Honestly, this KSU to Miami kid is the 1st dollar amount I have seen, one of the only companies. Life Wallet. While I am sure they are getting clicks, pretty sure the owner didn't do it for the financial return. Some school in the MAC will figure it out. Or a should say a sponsor will. You'll see a title or two bought by a Bowling Green, Akron...maybe an NIU. And then 5 years later you will see a 30 for 30 on it.

Maybe I'm pessimistic or whatever. I'm not trying to be argumentative though. But I just don't get it.

What would "winning" mean for any kind of corporation to invest in an NIU athlete. And enough of them to actually make a difference?

I'm not sure it's been disclosed how much Rocky is getting from Fatty's but I bet it's not much. For one, they'd have to get back (or would want to) what they give him. Otherwise, it's a bad deal for the company/entity.

So, if a company wanted to invest in NIU basketball, what would be a realistic level of winning be? I can't imagine it would be a national championship. That would take tons of money and there's nowhere close to any kind of guarantee that it would happen.

And I can't imagine a MAC championship moves the needle for any company to actually invest money into.

The actual only realistic option is the big pockets donor who just wants to sink money into it and doesn't care what comes of it.

I don't know that that exists for us.

Again, I'm not trying to be argumentative or pessimistic. I'm just not at all seeing the other side to this debate.

Who knows. Maybe the Yordon or Chessick families get the itch to pump money into the programs. They didn't for a coach plus there's no indication they have any interest in the basketball program as the arena still stands unnamed and I'd assume either of them could claim that with less money than was put up for either Center.

Maybe I'm wrong.