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RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - JRsec - 05-28-2022 03:45 AM

(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either. The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 05-29-2022 08:14 AM

(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - JRsec - 05-29-2022 01:06 PM

(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - DawgNBama - 05-29-2022 08:00 PM

(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.
JR, XLance's brain doesn't compute!! XLance can't comprehend a world without the ACC!!


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - AllTideUp - 05-29-2022 11:51 PM

We could get into the weeds on the potentialities here, but I could see an Eastern conference surviving all this...the Big East.

Take a few members of the ACC and add them back to their original conference. Secure the Big East's cooperation in everything and not only do you ensure every member of the ACC is accounted for, but ESPN gets Big East content again and that will be extraordinarily valuable once basketball is emancipated.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - Transic_nyc - 05-31-2022 07:12 PM






RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - AllTideUp - 05-31-2022 08:09 PM

(05-31-2022 07:12 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  


Kind of sounds like Jamie Pollard is angling for that media partner to come in and grease the skids.

It's been discussed before around here and it's certainly possible. Just depends on what might benefit ESPN.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 05-31-2022 08:55 PM

(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

How would you speculate that those conferences and divisions would be broken down?


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - JRsec - 05-31-2022 09:22 PM

(05-31-2022 08:55 PM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/


JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

How would you speculate that those conferences and divisions would be broken down?

Financially or for balance. Financially makes much more sense.

ACC/B12

Baylor, Brigham Young, T.C.U., Texas Tech, Oklahoma State

Cincinnati, Iowa State, Kansas State, Louisville, West Virginia

Boston College, Miami, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Virginia Tech

Clemson, Florida State, Georgia Tech, N.C. State, Wake Forest

*USC & Notre Dame


SEC

Arkansas, Kansas, Missouri, Oklahoma, Texas

Alabama, Louisiana State, Mississippi, Mississippi State, Texas A&M

Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, Vanderbilt

Duke, Kentucky, North Carolina, Tennessee, Virginia



RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 06-02-2022 05:18 AM

(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/

Quote:With the ACC locked into a TV Deal with the ACC Network until the 2035-36 season, ESPN has the leverage to relieve the ACC from a deal prematurely if it benefits ESPN.

How would it benefit ESPN is by bolstering a super conference for the SEC and its SEC Playoff?

The portfolio of the ACC has so many assets the SEC covets without messing with its foundational blueprint.

Clemson, Miami, Florida State, Georgia Tech, UNC, Duke, UVA, VA Tech, and Louisville all have assets whether it is football, basketball, or baseball that an All-SEC Conference in football would covet.

They keep the geographical football the SEC covets, keep that regional aspect, add marquee names to the equation, and has a deeper talent pool.

JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

The problem with both of our models JR, is that the good guys have too many teams, but the ACC's GOR proves to be the biggest stumbling block.
In a perfect world the goal would be to pare down to 34 for each side and then there is still Notre Dame hanging "out there".

In a perfect world you would have the B1G + the PAC + BYU, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt and West Virginia/Cincinnati.

On the other side there would be the SEC + the remainder of the ACC, + UCF, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, Houston, West Virginia/Cincinnati.

We know where we need to go, getting there is the dilemma.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - DawgNBama - 06-02-2022 07:38 AM

(06-02-2022 05:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:01 AM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  https://mikefarrellsports.com/2022/05/is-the-sec-playoff-a-steppingstone-to-expansion/


JR, is that you? 03-wink

No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

The problem with both of our models JR, is that the good guys have too many teams, but the ACC's GOR proves to be the biggest stumbling block.
In a perfect world the goal would be to pare down to 34 for each side and then there is still Notre Dame hanging "out there".

In a perfect world you would have the B1G + the PAC + BYU, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt and West Virginia/Cincinnati.

On the other side there would be the SEC + the remainder of the ACC, + UCF, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, Houston, West Virginia/Cincinnati.

We know where we need to go, getting there is the dilemma.

In the "getting there", I have to wonder if this is going to be a much slower process than any of us think that is. And I am not talking about football either. With the exception of a few loose strings here and there, I believe that realignment for football is just about over.
However, I firmly believe that realignment for basketball is just beginning and that it will take awhile for us to get to the finished product. Just like there are autonomy conferences in football, there will be autonomy conferences in basketball and more of them as well, IMHO. All of the major brands will be collected, and separation will slowly occur, regardless of a lot of factors, even politics.

I believe too, that soccer realignment will begin to be something to be watched as well. I already view MLS as America's fifth league in now America's Big 5 leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA , NHL, MLS) just like the Premier League is "the league" for soccer in the UK and there will need to be a source for teaching and/or refining talent for that league.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - bullet - 06-02-2022 09:51 AM

(06-02-2022 07:38 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(06-02-2022 05:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-28-2022 03:45 AM)JRsec Wrote:  No, but it wouldn't be the first time a blogger or beat writer copied posts or borrowed ideas from me or one of several posters on this site. Plagiarism is alive and well on the internet, particularly in between hoops finals and fall kickoff.

If ESPN goes after the total rights of the B12 they will have totally sewn up advertising from Texas to Kansas, across Missouri and Kentucky into Virginia and every state South to Miami. This is massive leverage over growing states in the most football recruit rich regions of the nation.

In that world advertising rates are maxed out. Should hoops become fully monetized and outside the bounds of the NCAA it gives ESPN the 4 winningest programs in hoops history: Kentucky, Kansas, Duke, and North Carolina.

I don't think you will see all of it packaged in the SEC either.
The major brands yes. There would be a new P conference made up of the rest.

With N.D. & B.Y.U. in house as well, I look for ESPN to pursue an independent deal for U.S.C. That gives them plenty of late-night games between Texas Tech, B.Y.U., and U.S.C. and their home schedules, and plenty of exposure in B10 country with N.D., Cincinnati, Iowa State, W.V.U., Syracuse, Pitt and B.C.

Form a playoff with these schools and you might lure Washington, Oregon, Stanford, Arizona State, Penn State, Ohio State, Michigan and Wisconsin and maybe a few others. Pick up Big East hoops or at least invite them to your tourney and you now own the new CFP and Hoops tourney.

People think ESPN wants the top schools. They do. But what they really want are the playoffs and tourney. And they aren't too far away from getting them.

Sign USC and an indy, assure ND they can remain one, pickup BYU, and sew up the B12 and with the SEC, ACC, & AAC already in hand who will stop them?

Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

The problem with both of our models JR, is that the good guys have too many teams, but the ACC's GOR proves to be the biggest stumbling block.
In a perfect world the goal would be to pare down to 34 for each side and then there is still Notre Dame hanging "out there".

In a perfect world you would have the B1G + the PAC + BYU, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt and West Virginia/Cincinnati.

On the other side there would be the SEC + the remainder of the ACC, + UCF, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, Houston, West Virginia/Cincinnati.

We know where we need to go, getting there is the dilemma.

In the "getting there", I have to wonder if this is going to be a much slower process than any of us think that is. And I am not talking about football either. With the exception of a few loose strings here and there, I believe that realignment for football is just about over.
However, I firmly believe that realignment for basketball is just beginning and that it will take awhile for us to get to the finished product. Just like there are autonomy conferences in football, there will be autonomy conferences in basketball and more of them as well, IMHO. All of the major brands will be collected, and separation will slowly occur, regardless of a lot of factors, even politics.

I believe too, that soccer realignment will begin to be something to be watched as well. I already view MLS as America's fifth league in now America's Big 5 leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA , NHL, MLS) just like the Premier League is "the league" for soccer in the UK and there will need to be a source for teaching and/or refining talent for that league.

There are several other "minor" soccer leagues, although its not as clearly defined as baseball. In addition to Atlanta United in MLS, there is an Atlanta United 2 in a different league. They have some kind of a championship cup and Atlanta United recently played Chattanooga who is in a different league.

I don't see college taking up the minor league role as it has in football and basketball. There isn't money in it. And title IX discourages non-rev men's sports.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - bullet - 06-02-2022 09:53 AM

There was an AT&T exec in the 80s who was quoted about technological change-It will take much longer than expected, but will be more transformational than you can imagine.

I suspect the same will be true about college sports realignment and the impact of professionalism at the college ranks.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 06-02-2022 06:56 PM

(06-02-2022 09:53 AM)bullet Wrote:  There was an AT&T exec in the 80s who was quoted about technological change-It will take much longer than expected, but will be more transformational than you can imagine.

I suspect the same will be true about college sports realignment and the impact of professionalism at the college ranks.

If they take their time and it gets done correctly, it could benefit everyone.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - AllTideUp - 06-03-2022 03:37 AM

(06-02-2022 09:51 AM)bullet Wrote:  
(06-02-2022 07:38 AM)DawgNBama Wrote:  
(06-02-2022 05:18 AM)XLance Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 01:06 PM)JRsec Wrote:  
(05-29-2022 08:14 AM)XLance Wrote:  Just re-read your statement and glanced at a map JR.
ESPN would control 38 teams. What if the mouse decided to put them in smaller conferences, but required them to play all of their OOC games within the "family"?

it could end up looking like this:

Big 12
Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State, Missouri, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Arkansas, Texas Tech, TCU, Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M.

SEC
Louisville, Kentucky, Vanderbilt, Tennessee, LSU, Miss State, Ole Miss, Alabama, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, South Carolina

ACC
Miami, FSU, GT, Clemson, Wake Forest, Duke, NCSU, Carolina, UVa, Va. Tech, West Virginia, Pitt, Syracuse, Boston College

Reallocation of assets.

Think 1 League, 2 Conferences, 4 divisions of 5 each, 2 independents.

Add B.Y.U. & Cincinnati to the 38. Add Notre Dame and U.S.C. as independents.

The problem with both of our models JR, is that the good guys have too many teams, but the ACC's GOR proves to be the biggest stumbling block.
In a perfect world the goal would be to pare down to 34 for each side and then there is still Notre Dame hanging "out there".

In a perfect world you would have the B1G + the PAC + BYU, Kansas, KSU, Iowa State, Boston College, Syracuse, Pitt and West Virginia/Cincinnati.

On the other side there would be the SEC + the remainder of the ACC, + UCF, Texas Tech, Oklahoma State, Baylor, TCU, Houston, West Virginia/Cincinnati.

We know where we need to go, getting there is the dilemma.

In the "getting there", I have to wonder if this is going to be a much slower process than any of us think that is. And I am not talking about football either. With the exception of a few loose strings here and there, I believe that realignment for football is just about over.
However, I firmly believe that realignment for basketball is just beginning and that it will take awhile for us to get to the finished product. Just like there are autonomy conferences in football, there will be autonomy conferences in basketball and more of them as well, IMHO. All of the major brands will be collected, and separation will slowly occur, regardless of a lot of factors, even politics.

I believe too, that soccer realignment will begin to be something to be watched as well. I already view MLS as America's fifth league in now America's Big 5 leagues (NFL, MLB, NBA , NHL, MLS) just like the Premier League is "the league" for soccer in the UK and there will need to be a source for teaching and/or refining talent for that league.

There are several other "minor" soccer leagues, although its not as clearly defined as baseball. In addition to Atlanta United in MLS, there is an Atlanta United 2 in a different league. They have some kind of a championship cup and Atlanta United recently played Chattanooga who is in a different league.

I don't see college taking up the minor league role as it has in football and basketball. There isn't money in it. And title IX discourages non-rev men's sports.

When it comes to soccer, I would add there are far too many opportunities to make money beyond the US market at that. It's not an American or even North American based sport like those others.

The best American players don't tend to stay stateside very long. If you can build a career in a European academy then you do it and you tend to do it at a young age. And that's before you ever consider endorsement potential which is orders of magnitude greater outside the US.

The sport is growing here and long term has a healthy outlook, but it's apples to oranges as far as money-making potential right now.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - Transic_nyc - 06-11-2022 10:54 PM

https://www.mercurynews.com/2022/06/10/projecting-the-value-of-the-pac-12s-next-media-rights-contract-will-it-approach-the-sec-and-big-ten-deals/

Quote:Using recently-signed sports media deals as a framework, Navigate valued the Pac-12’s next rights agreement at an average of $500 million annually.

That represents a doubling of the current media contract but won’t fully eliminate the difference in annual revenue between Pac-12 schools and their peers in the Big Ten and SEC.

“They are in a good position and a bad position,” Navigate founder AJ Maestas said of the Pac-12’s negotiating leverage with media companies.

“It’s a good position because the Tier 1 (national) and Pac-12 Networks rights are coterminous. They control everything, and it’s all available at the same time.

“They have more flexibility than I can ever remember for any conference. That’s a positive, because the Pac-12 Networks have under-monetized, and they have a chance to fix an underperforming chunk of their inventory.”

The bad news?

“Their contract negotiations come after the new SEC and Big Ten contracts,” Maestas explained, “so all the highest-performing content will be sorted.

“Everything is available, but they are late in the pecking order.”

The SEC’s media rights were recently locked up by ESPN, while the Big Ten is currently negotiating agreements that will start in the summer of 2023.

Those leagues account for the majority of premium football matchups that attract top media dollars. As a result, the Big Ten and SEC are expected to distribute in excess of $1 billion annually when everything settles in the second half of the decade.

By then, the Big Ten’s new deal will be humming, Texas and Oklahoma will be in the SEC, and the College Football Playoff will have expanded to 12 teams.

But the Pac-12 won’t be quite as far behind as it appears, and here’s why: The $1 billion-plus estimates for the SEC and Big Ten include all forms of media revenue.

— Contracts with media partners for regular-season football and men’s basketball inventory

— Massive amounts of CFP cash resulting from expansion

— NCAA Tournament payments

Navigate’s estimate of $500 million annually for the Pac-12 did not include CFP or March Madness income — only the cash generated by the conference’s next regular-season media deals.

When the NCAAs and CFP income is added to the treasure chest, the Pac-12’s total annual revenue jumps well above $700 million, according to Navigate.

But because playoff expansion is four years away and the Pac-12’s media negotiations are expected to begin later this year, the Hotline focused on the regular-season buckets.



RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - Transic_nyc - 09-22-2022 01:56 PM

Quote:“I just heard USC and UCLA may announce today they are joining the Big Ten,” Bubba Cunningham, the athletic director at North Carolina, texted to Kevin Guskiewicz, the university chancellor, as the news began to spread of another round of major conference realignment.

A few hours later Guskiewicz responded. The ACC’s presidents and chancellors had scheduled a meeting for the morning, and first he wanted to talk with his athletic director. They agreed to a 6 p.m. call. After, around 10:30, Cunningham texted his boss again.

Cunningham had shared a conversation with a UNC alum who’d become one of the most powerful figures in college athletics over the past several decades; a man who, before his recent retirement, had forever changed the financial model of his industry. The same man who had positioned the Big Ten as one of college sports’ two dominant conferences.

“Had a long call with Jim Delany tonight,” Cunningham wrote in his text to Guskiewicz, referencing the former Big Ten commissioner who led that conference from 1989 through 2020. “He preaches patience and planning. No need to rush right now.”

Quote:Cunningham didn’t detail the “long talk” he shared with Delany the night the Big Ten news broke, but in a recent phone interview he said, “I consider Jim Delany a good friend.” It’d be easy to read meaning into UNC’s athletic director sharing an extended conversation with the former commissioner of the Big Ten — one who’s still a powerful figure in college athletics, despite his retirement — on such a pivotal night in recent college sports history.

Cunningham, though, said he’d only wanted to seek Delany’s insight on a changing landscape.

“It was more of ‘give me your thoughts’ kind of conversation,” Cunningham said. “That’s what that call was about.”

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article264799339.html


Very interesting stuff. Btw, not making any predictions here based on the article. Still, it's important to note how the Chapel Hill inner circle has been keeping in touch throughout this time. The background noise is just too loud to dismiss it as mere chatter. Cunningham contacting Delany can't be coincidental. If Cunningham is prepping for a possible future outside the comfortable perch the program is in then it's prudent that he gets the ducks quietly in a row. Contacting Sankey or Warren directly would raise suspicions at a time when they can't afford to. They can't afford to cross Phillips right now.

We already know Oregon and Washington are talking. Don't think Stanford and another program aren't doing the same. People are talking to people in the know for a long time.


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 09-22-2022 08:25 PM

(09-22-2022 01:56 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  
Quote:“I just heard USC and UCLA may announce today they are joining the Big Ten,” Bubba Cunningham, the athletic director at North Carolina, texted to Kevin Guskiewicz, the university chancellor, as the news began to spread of another round of major conference realignment.

A few hours later Guskiewicz responded. The ACC’s presidents and chancellors had scheduled a meeting for the morning, and first he wanted to talk with his athletic director. They agreed to a 6 p.m. call. After, around 10:30, Cunningham texted his boss again.

Cunningham had shared a conversation with a UNC alum who’d become one of the most powerful figures in college athletics over the past several decades; a man who, before his recent retirement, had forever changed the financial model of his industry. The same man who had positioned the Big Ten as one of college sports’ two dominant conferences.

“Had a long call with Jim Delany tonight,” Cunningham wrote in his text to Guskiewicz, referencing the former Big Ten commissioner who led that conference from 1989 through 2020. “He preaches patience and planning. No need to rush right now.”

Quote:Cunningham didn’t detail the “long talk” he shared with Delany the night the Big Ten news broke, but in a recent phone interview he said, “I consider Jim Delany a good friend.” It’d be easy to read meaning into UNC’s athletic director sharing an extended conversation with the former commissioner of the Big Ten — one who’s still a powerful figure in college athletics, despite his retirement — on such a pivotal night in recent college sports history.

Cunningham, though, said he’d only wanted to seek Delany’s insight on a changing landscape.

“It was more of ‘give me your thoughts’ kind of conversation,” Cunningham said. “That’s what that call was about.”

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article264799339.html


Very interesting stuff. Btw, not making any predictions here based on the article. Still, it's important to note how the Chapel Hill inner circle has been keeping in touch throughout this time. The background noise is just too loud to dismiss it as mere chatter. Cunningham contacting Delany can't be coincidental. If Cunningham is prepping for a possible future outside the comfortable perch the program is in then it's prudent that he gets the ducks quietly in a row. Contacting Sankey or Warren directly would raise suspicions at a time when they can't afford to. They can't afford to cross Phillips right now.

We already know Oregon and Washington are talking. Don't think Stanford and another program aren't doing the same. People are talking to people in the know for a long time.

Good find.
It pays to "have a guy".


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - mj4life - 09-23-2022 08:10 AM

(09-22-2022 01:56 PM)Transic_nyc Wrote:  
Quote:“I just heard USC and UCLA may announce today they are joining the Big Ten,” Bubba Cunningham, the athletic director at North Carolina, texted to Kevin Guskiewicz, the university chancellor, as the news began to spread of another round of major conference realignment.

A few hours later Guskiewicz responded. The ACC’s presidents and chancellors had scheduled a meeting for the morning, and first he wanted to talk with his athletic director. They agreed to a 6 p.m. call. After, around 10:30, Cunningham texted his boss again.

Cunningham had shared a conversation with a UNC alum who’d become one of the most powerful figures in college athletics over the past several decades; a man who, before his recent retirement, had forever changed the financial model of his industry. The same man who had positioned the Big Ten as one of college sports’ two dominant conferences.

“Had a long call with Jim Delany tonight,” Cunningham wrote in his text to Guskiewicz, referencing the former Big Ten commissioner who led that conference from 1989 through 2020. “He preaches patience and planning. No need to rush right now.”

Quote:Cunningham didn’t detail the “long talk” he shared with Delany the night the Big Ten news broke, but in a recent phone interview he said, “I consider Jim Delany a good friend.” It’d be easy to read meaning into UNC’s athletic director sharing an extended conversation with the former commissioner of the Big Ten — one who’s still a powerful figure in college athletics, despite his retirement — on such a pivotal night in recent college sports history.

Cunningham, though, said he’d only wanted to seek Delany’s insight on a changing landscape.

“It was more of ‘give me your thoughts’ kind of conversation,” Cunningham said. “That’s what that call was about.”

https://amp.newsobserver.com/sports/college/acc/unc/article264799339.html


Very interesting stuff. Btw, not making any predictions here based on the article. Still, it's important to note how the Chapel Hill inner circle has been keeping in touch throughout this time. The background noise is just too loud to dismiss it as mere chatter. Cunningham contacting Delany can't be coincidental. If Cunningham is prepping for a possible future outside the comfortable perch the program is in then it's prudent that he gets the ducks quietly in a row. Contacting Sankey or Warren directly would raise suspicions at a time when they can't afford to. They can't afford to cross Phillips right now.

We already know Oregon and Washington are talking. Don't think Stanford and another program aren't doing the same. People are talking to people in the know for a long time.

Of course they are prepping for all possibilities in the changing landscape of college athletics as most schools should be, the major difference is they won't be as vocal about those plans as say FSU or Oregon


RE: Why The Next Round Of Realignment Will Not Be Like Any Of The Others: - XLance - 10-11-2022 05:30 AM

ESPN created the realignment logjam when they instructed the SEC to invite Missouri.
It was a solid move into a relatively large State but a real "no-man's land" as far as realignment goes. It basically froze everything long enough for the SEC/ESPN to chisel Texas and Oklahoma away from the then crippled Big 12.
The B1G continued to destroy as much as they could and dealt a death blow to the PAC with the invitations for USC and UCLA.
Now we wait in anticipation of each of those conferences to fail.
What can ESPN do now that final movement seems desirable? What is possible to enhance their star product and expand the reach of the SEC into new markets without destroying what made the conference marketable in the first place?

For years many have advocated ridding the SEC of their weakest link...Vanderbilt. On paper that seems like a good idea, but replacing them with .....
16 seems like a compact number for a conference, anything larger only dilutes the product.
The ACC on the other hand is ESPN's hodge-podge, a catch all conference sewn, together to offer a large area to tie up a large population.
I think moving the ACC to 20 by adding a few properties that could hasten what we have all been expecting since the Texas/Oklahoma announcement.
Radical ?possibly, but worthy of at least passing consideration.
ESPN moves Vanderbilt to the ACC and replaces them with West Virginia.
ESPN rounds out the ACC with Kansas, TCU and Baylor for a 20 team conference.
The West Virginia/Pitt game becomes another ACC/SEC season ender. The SEC gains access toward the DC market, and has an opportunity to thwart the B1G influence in the Pennsylvania, Maryland and Ohio regions.
The ACC gains 3 states and access to the lucrative Texas TV market.

Just a thought.