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RE: Austin Opting Out - Tiger87 - 12-16-2021 10:45 PM

(12-16-2021 08:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 06:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:26 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 11:13 AM)Stammers Wrote:  Obviously if you have a basic grasp of common sense, you don't try to argue that it is the same for you as a viewer of the game. It is obviously much different for Austin. Obviously, if you have any common sense, you understand that a week with other draft potential players with a full NFL staff, with scouts from every team on hand is infinitely different from playing in obscurity on Christmas Eve.

We have a "special" fan who is whining because he can't watch Austin play, and that Austin is ruining his bowl game experience. He is also arguing that there is no difference for Austin at all. So sad.

AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

Then leave

Was I talking to you

No but I was talking to you

The guy is a pure troll.
He's practically admitted he is not a Tigers fan.
I suspect he's an $EC frontrunner.


RE: Austin Opting Out - jsw3ent - 12-16-2021 11:37 PM

(12-16-2021 10:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 08:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 06:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:26 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

Then leave

Was I talking to you

No but I was talking to you

The guy is a pure troll.
He's practically admitted he is not a Tigers fan.
I suspect he's an $EC frontrunner.

Laughable

Ushered in the Coliseum and MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM for a time as a teen and young adult to get to go to the games--season ticket holder for years----show me where I practically admitted that

My contempt for the SEC is known near and far

Put me on ignore


RE: Austin Opting Out - MvETigers - 12-17-2021 12:16 AM

(12-16-2021 11:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 10:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 08:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 06:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:26 PM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  Then leave

Was I talking to you

No but I was talking to you

The guy is a pure troll.
He's practically admitted he is not a Tigers fan.
I suspect he's an $EC frontrunner.

Laughable

Ushered in the Coliseum and MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM for a time as a teen and young adult to get to go to the games--season ticket holder for years----show me where I practically admitted that

My contempt for the SEC is known near and far

Put me on ignore

Why ignore the pure comic genius.... or mountains of bovine excrement?!


RE: Austin Opting Out - jsw3ent - 12-17-2021 12:19 AM

(12-17-2021 12:16 AM)MvETigers Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 11:37 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 10:45 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 08:53 AM)MemphisFan95 Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 06:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  Was I talking to you

No but I was talking to you

The guy is a pure troll.
He's practically admitted he is not a Tigers fan.
I suspect he's an $EC frontrunner.

Laughable

Ushered in the Coliseum and MEMPHIS MEMORIAL STADIUM for a time as a teen and young adult to get to go to the games--season ticket holder for years----show me where I practically admitted that

My contempt for the SEC is known near and far

Put me on ignore

Why ignore the pure comic genius.... or mountains of bovine excrement?!

LOL--why thank you


RE: Austin Opting Out - LotsOfBull99 - 12-17-2021 02:44 PM

I wish USF football was enough wins so that players could opt out of the bowl game.


RE: Austin Opting Out - jsw3ent - 12-17-2021 02:56 PM

(12-17-2021 02:44 PM)LotsOfBull99 Wrote:  I wish USF football was enough wins so that players could opt out of the bowl game.

LOL--04-cheers


RE: Austin Opting Out - TigerSeth - 12-17-2021 04:42 PM

(12-16-2021 10:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 03:08 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  I ask again...will he return those wing guru checks?

Regular season is over. Did he get a bonus for the bowl season?

Record and stats from the bowl game count towards the regular season. Try again Billy Bob.


RE: Austin Opting Out - ImaTiger - 12-17-2021 06:32 PM

(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

I don't know about lies, but your position and statements regarding Mr. Austin are offensive, insulting, rude, crass, unbecoming of a fan and disloyal. IMHO.

IMHO you deserve to be insulted because you have insulted the program. again just IMHO.

Please let me know if you don't feel insulted and I'd be glad to up the rhetoric.


RE: Austin Opting Out - jsw3ent - 12-17-2021 06:52 PM

(12-17-2021 06:32 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

I don't know about lies, but your position and statements regarding Mr. Austin are offensive, insulting, rude, crass, unbecoming of a fan and disloyal. IMHO.

IMHO you deserve to be insulted because you have insulted the program. again just IMHO.

Please let me know if you don't feel insulted and I'd be glad to up the rhetoric.

Insult away--my loyalty is to the school--he quit on the team and school---jmo----I don't agree but respect the opinion you have --without insulting you or any poster----others should follow suit----why insult or be rude with a poster with a different opinion-----we are all TIGER fans--we should be able to disagree without attacks --I mean this is a fan message board


RE: Austin Opting Out - Stammers - 12-17-2021 09:28 PM

(12-17-2021 06:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 06:32 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

I don't know about lies, but your position and statements regarding Mr. Austin are offensive, insulting, rude, crass, unbecoming of a fan and disloyal. IMHO.

IMHO you deserve to be insulted because you have insulted the program. again just IMHO.

Please let me know if you don't feel insulted and I'd be glad to up the rhetoric.

Insult away--my loyalty is to the school--he quit on the team and school---jmo----I don't agree but respect the opinion you have --without insulting you or any poster----others should follow suit----why insult or be rude with a poster with a different opinion-----we are all TIGER fans--we should be able to disagree without attacks --I mean this is a fan message board

You're getting clobbered worse than usual.


RE: Austin Opting Out - jsw3ent - 12-17-2021 09:32 PM

(12-17-2021 09:28 PM)Stammers Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 06:52 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 06:32 PM)ImaTiger Wrote:  
(12-15-2021 02:08 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  AGAIN --GETTING TIRED OF THE INSULTS --AND THE LIES

I don't know about lies, but your position and statements regarding Mr. Austin are offensive, insulting, rude, crass, unbecoming of a fan and disloyal. IMHO.

IMHO you deserve to be insulted because you have insulted the program. again just IMHO.

Please let me know if you don't feel insulted and I'd be glad to up the rhetoric.

Insult away--my loyalty is to the school--he quit on the team and school---jmo----I don't agree but respect the opinion you have --without insulting you or any poster----others should follow suit----why insult or be rude with a poster with a different opinion-----we are all TIGER fans--we should be able to disagree without attacks --I mean this is a fan message board

You're getting clobbered worse than usual.

LOL I sure am STAMMERS ---other than me--I wonder who started the barrage LOL---have a good evening fellow TIGER fan


RE: Austin Opting Out - Tiger87 - 12-18-2021 12:50 AM

(12-17-2021 04:42 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 10:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 03:08 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  I ask again...will he return those wing guru checks?

Regular season is over. Did he get a bonus for the bowl season?

Record and stats from the bowl game count towards the regular season. Try again Billy Bob.

So when you sign a NIL deal, do you automatically assume post-season play?
And the deal covers this? Or is there a post season bonus involved?
Not sure how these work, but you evidently know the ins and outs.

They do call it "POST SEASON" by the way.


RE: Austin Opting Out - macgar32 - 12-18-2021 08:49 AM

(12-18-2021 12:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 04:42 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 10:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 03:08 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  I ask again...will he return those wing guru checks?

Regular season is over. Did he get a bonus for the bowl season?

Record and stats from the bowl game count towards the regular season. Try again Billy Bob.

So when you sign a NIL deal, do you automatically assume post-season play?
And the deal covers this? Or is there a post season bonus involved?
Not sure how these work, but you evidently know the ins and outs.

They do call it "POST SEASON" by the way.

Endorsements cannot be tied to play\performance in any sport.


RE: Austin Opting Out - Tigerx3 - 12-18-2021 09:15 AM

(12-14-2021 07:37 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  
(12-14-2021 07:05 PM)jsw3ent Wrote:  
(12-14-2021 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Does Austin have much chance to be drafted? I would think not but maybe. If he's getting his info that he will be drafted, I suppose it's worth his sitting out for a nothing bowl like Hawaii. On the other hand if it were me, I might like a free trip to Hawaii. Now if he decides to come back next season, then as a fan I'm not liking that decision - and as a coach I might not allow it.

If he sits the bowl game because of risk of injury----how is playing the senior bowl any different ---is injury in the senior bowl prohibited ? Just asking ?

No, I don't see much difference other than he's hoping the senior bowl is a try-out of sorts to help him at the next level that also involves association with agents, pro coaches etc. His decision is becoming more the norm, unfortunately, but I won't lose sleep over it.

One big difference is the Senior Bowl is played February 5th. That’s a lot of healing, recovery and conditioning difference. A friend on the staff shared that Calvin could not be 100% for Dec 24th.

Not sure the Senior Bowl carries a lot of weight with scouts but skill players do stand out.


RE: Austin Opting Out - Tigerx3 - 12-18-2021 09:31 AM

(12-14-2021 07:00 PM)Atlanta Wrote:  Does Austin have much chance to be drafted? I would think not but maybe. If he's getting his info that he will be drafted, I suppose it's worth his sitting out for a nothing bowl like Hawaii. On the other hand if it were me, I might like a free trip to Hawaii. Now if he decides to come back next season, then as a fan I'm not liking that decision - and as a coach I might not allow it.

One Draft site had him listed as the number 15 WR which would likely give a late round call. He has logged a 4.3 40. Evals give him good scores on all speed and skill drills. He gets high marks for his routs and above average on his hands.

He is short at maybe 5’8. Weight is maybe 165.

The numbers he has put up makes him an intriguing option to many teams looking for that extra 3rd down WR.

Again. Getting back to 100% is very important.


RE: Austin Opting Out - SeñorTiger - 12-18-2021 10:43 AM

(12-18-2021 08:49 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  
(12-18-2021 12:50 AM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-17-2021 04:42 PM)TigerSeth Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 10:44 PM)Tiger87 Wrote:  
(12-16-2021 03:08 AM)TigerSeth Wrote:  I ask again...will he return those wing guru checks?

Regular season is over. Did he get a bonus for the bowl season?

Record and stats from the bowl game count towards the regular season. Try again Billy Bob.

So when you sign a NIL deal, do you automatically assume post-season play?
And the deal covers this? Or is there a post season bonus involved?
Not sure how these work, but you evidently know the ins and outs.

They do call it "POST SEASON" by the way.

Endorsements cannot be tied to play\performance in any sport.

I do the tax and planning work for several college athletes with NIL deals. The deals cannot be pay for play in terms of “I will give you X deal if you come to Memphis”. But they can be tied to on field performance, games played in etc. once a player is on campus it really doesn’t become pay for play because they are already there. The business is paying for the player’s name, image and likeness which is driven by games played and performance.


RE: Austin Opting Out - Tiger87 - 12-18-2021 11:14 AM

Yeah, since it's supposedly market-driven value, the $$ would almost have to have some fluidity based upon performance. A starter with a NIL deal gets hurt in preseason and is out for the year, sees his value plummet (Gunnell). A player has a big year, and the team crashes the playoffs (Cincy football) would see his value increase.

But the only point I'm making is the goofy position that CA3 owes the Wing Guru a refund for sitting out a bowl game that they were never even guaranteed to attend.


RE: Austin Opting Out - former guest - 12-18-2021 12:32 PM

Maybe CA3’s NIL deal was a “short term deal”…


RE: Austin Opting Out - TigerSeth - 12-19-2021 03:06 AM

Will Austin return the wing guru cash? Asking for a pal.


RE: Austin Opting Out - TigerSeth - 12-19-2021 09:23 PM

Bueller? Frye?