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RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Bearhawkeye - 12-22-2021 11:15 PM




RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - icecat21 - 12-23-2021 08:39 PM

(12-22-2021 11:15 PM)Bearhawkeye Wrote:  

That's just awesome


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - JoeJag - 12-24-2021 02:44 PM

(12-05-2021 12:49 PM)icehole3 Wrote:  I'm good with a 1 point win over Alabama.

I just bet you are. 02-13-banana


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Edgebrookjeff - 12-25-2021 09:48 AM

I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - BearcatMan - 12-25-2021 09:54 AM

(12-25-2021 09:48 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?

Here's the thing...we are probably in the same boat, and won't have time to figure things out since our players are going home for the holidays.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - doss2 - 12-25-2021 11:20 AM

(12-25-2021 09:48 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?

That was what I wanted for Christmas!


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Edgebrookjeff - 12-25-2021 11:42 AM

(12-25-2021 09:54 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-25-2021 09:48 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?

Here's the thing...we are probably in the same boat, and won't have time to figure things out since our players are going home for the holidays.

You never know, but I'm hoping for the best.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - uchoops - 12-25-2021 12:29 PM

(12-25-2021 09:54 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-25-2021 09:48 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?

Here's the thing...we are probably in the same boat, and won't have time to figure things out since our players are going home for the holidays.

UC is leaving tomorrow for Dallas…think it would be difficult to head home for the Holidays and leave tomorrow for Dallas…


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Edgebrookjeff - 12-25-2021 12:52 PM

(12-25-2021 12:29 PM)uchoops Wrote:  
(12-25-2021 09:54 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  
(12-25-2021 09:48 AM)Edgebrookjeff Wrote:  I've heard from my son who lives in AL, that more than half of the players and coaches are in COVID protocols right now. I have been pondering the following scenario: Would it be better for the Alabama program to forfeit the game, rather than play it with good portion of you staff & players out due to illness. Does Alabama want to be known as the first program to lose to a G5, or be known as having forfeited due to illness?

Here's the thing...we are probably in the same boat, and won't have time to figure things out since our players are going home for the holidays.

UC is leaving tomorrow for Dallas…think it would be difficult to head home for the Holidays and leave tomorrow for Dallas…

Probably rapid tests before they leave campus.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - UCGrad1992 - 12-26-2021 01:51 PM

We're delusional fans according to this dude...

Quote:Alabama Football: Why delusional Cincinnati fans predict an upset

Based on social media, it appears lots of Cincinnati fans are confident the Bearcats will upset Alabama Football. Fans should have optimism about their team’s chances. Rooting for a team through a prism of pessimism cannot be much fun.

Unfounded optimism carries the risk of a big emotional letdown. That is what Bearcats’ fans are facing on Dec. 31, when their upset dreams come crashing down.

Why can Alabama Football fans be so confident in a Crimson Tide victory? The answer is, talent normally prevails in college football, as in the roster talent of each team’s top 45-50 players. The most frequent exception occurs when the most-talented team makes enough mistakes to beat itself.

Cincinnati fans inaccurately compare the Bearcats’ top seven or eight players to the Crimson Tide and conclude there is no talent disparity. Those seven or eight Cincinnati guys are legitimate NFL prospects. But, it takes more than eight, or even 18 guys to win big football games. Compare the top 25 players on each team and the Tide has a significant talent advantage. Take that comparison to each team’s top 40 players and the Crimson Tide has an overwhelming talent advantage.

Cincinnati fans are also confused by their team’s undefeated season. The Bearcats are a legitimately good team. Their resume from the 2021 season does not qualify them as a great team. Just look at the competition.

Using the data from Jeff Sagarin, the teams the Bearcats beat are ranked:

Notre Dame Fighting Irish – No. 5
Houston Cougars – No. 39
SMU Mustangs – No. 53
UCF Knights – No. 56
Tulsa Golden Hurricane – No. 74
East Carolina Pirates – No. 80
Miami-Ohio Red Hawks- No. 89
Indiana Hoosiers – No. 95
Navy Midshipmen – No. 97
Tulane Green Wave – No. 105
South Florida Bulls – No. 130
Temple Owls – No. 166
Murray State Racers – No. 191

The second-best team, beaten by the Bearcats; the Houston Cougars are rated at No. 39 by Sagarin, making them loosely equivalent to Washington State, Louisiana, Air Forde, Nevada and North Dakota State. Cincinnati fans, seeing their team romp over mediocre and worse foes, mistake being unbeaten with being elite.

By comparison, the Alabama Crimson Tide beat nine teams, ranked by Sagarin between No. 2 and No. 37.

One more point has misled most of the college football world. Cincinnatti beat a now highly-rated Notre Dame team in South Bend. First, overrating the Fighting Irish is a national pastime. Second, in early October, Brian kelly had not found an offense. The week before playing Cincinnati, the Irish handily beat Wisconsin, mostly because the Badgers made five turnovers.

But the Irish could not run on the Badgers, averaging 0.1 yards. Kelly decided the Irish passing attack would have to carry his team. Against Cincinnati, Kelly tried three different quarterbacks. None were effective. QB mistakes caused most of Notre Dame’s first-half deficit of 17-0. Credit to Cincinnati for the road upset, but Notre Dame mostly beat itself.

Cincinnati fans want to ignore these facts. It is fine for them to choose what they want to believe, but for their team, an Alabama Football reckoning is coming.

A reckoning is coming


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - cincybb51 - 12-26-2021 03:02 PM

(12-26-2021 01:51 PM)UCGrad1992 Wrote:  We're delusional fans according to this dude...

Quote:Alabama Football: Why delusional Cincinnati fans predict an upset

Based on social media, it appears lots of Cincinnati fans are confident the Bearcats will upset Alabama Football. Fans should have optimism about their team’s chances. Rooting for a team through a prism of pessimism cannot be much fun.

Unfounded optimism carries the risk of a big emotional letdown. That is what Bearcats’ fans are facing on Dec. 31, when their upset dreams come crashing down.

Why can Alabama Football fans be so confident in a Crimson Tide victory? The answer is, talent normally prevails in college football, as in the roster talent of each team’s top 45-50 players. The most frequent exception occurs when the most-talented team makes enough mistakes to beat itself.

Cincinnati fans inaccurately compare the Bearcats’ top seven or eight players to the Crimson Tide and conclude there is no talent disparity. Those seven or eight Cincinnati guys are legitimate NFL prospects. But, it takes more than eight, or even 18 guys to win big football games. Compare the top 25 players on each team and the Tide has a significant talent advantage. Take that comparison to each team’s top 40 players and the Crimson Tide has an overwhelming talent advantage.

Cincinnati fans are also confused by their team’s undefeated season. The Bearcats are a legitimately good team. Their resume from the 2021 season does not qualify them as a great team. Just look at the competition.

Using the data from Jeff Sagarin, the teams the Bearcats beat are ranked:

Notre Dame Fighting Irish – No. 5
Houston Cougars – No. 39
SMU Mustangs – No. 53
UCF Knights – No. 56
Tulsa Golden Hurricane – No. 74
East Carolina Pirates – No. 80
Miami-Ohio Red Hawks- No. 89
Indiana Hoosiers – No. 95
Navy Midshipmen – No. 97
Tulane Green Wave – No. 105
South Florida Bulls – No. 130
Temple Owls – No. 166
Murray State Racers – No. 191

The second-best team, beaten by the Bearcats; the Houston Cougars are rated at No. 39 by Sagarin, making them loosely equivalent to Washington State, Louisiana, Air Forde, Nevada and North Dakota State. Cincinnati fans, seeing their team romp over mediocre and worse foes, mistake being unbeaten with being elite.

By comparison, the Alabama Crimson Tide beat nine teams, ranked by Sagarin between No. 2 and No. 37.

One more point has misled most of the college football world. Cincinnatti beat a now highly-rated Notre Dame team in South Bend. First, overrating the Fighting Irish is a national pastime. Second, in early October, Brian kelly had not found an offense. The week before playing Cincinnati, the Irish handily beat Wisconsin, mostly because the Badgers made five turnovers.

But the Irish could not run on the Badgers, averaging 0.1 yards. Kelly decided the Irish passing attack would have to carry his team. Against Cincinnati, Kelly tried three different quarterbacks. None were effective. QB mistakes caused most of Notre Dame’s first-half deficit of 17-0. Credit to Cincinnati for the road upset, but Notre Dame mostly beat itself.

Cincinnati fans want to ignore these facts. It is fine for them to choose what they want to believe, but for their team, an Alabama Football reckoning is coming.

A reckoning is coming

Did they play a tougher schedule overall; yes but systems like the Sagarin ratings in my opinion can skew the results in my opinion. Take a team like Miami Hurricanes who Alabama beat. They are rated ahead of SMU, Houston and Tulsa but I would take the American Conference teams in a matchup against Miami on a neutral field. Also Bama played Mercer, Southern Miss, New Mexica State and were lucky to escape with a win against Auburn who was playing with a back-up qb who at times looked like a deer caught in the headlights.

Alabama certainly has the five and four star abundance of talent but one stat we would have the edge would be the number of total post game starts by our 22 starters in their careers would clearly be more than the total by Alabama. Don't think the number would even be close; time will tell if that experience shows in our match-up.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - ladeda - 12-26-2021 03:24 PM

Go look @ Clemson's opponents in 2018 when they went undefeated and won the title. Cuse was the highest rated ACC team they played @ #28. (Beat them by 4 @ home.) Next highest ACC team they played was BC @ #38.

Dumbest article ever. Shocker-- SEC team plays tougher schedule than AAC team. Just because you played a tougher schedule, doesn't mean you are guaranteed to blow out the other team. Clemson has proved twice that you can be in a so-so conference and win the Title.

Last time I checked, #15 A&M beat #1 Bama. #18 Oregon beat #3 OSU. (per Sagarin ratings.) Underdogs can still win games.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - bearcatkarl - 12-26-2021 04:31 PM

Time To start packing. We leave in 3 days. Has UC announced if we were red or black? UC tailgates or anything? We have a spot in lot 13 and have a group of 15. Will have skyline dip and grippos chips for out of towners. Happy to buy you a beer if you stop by.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - eroc - 12-26-2021 04:39 PM

(12-26-2021 04:31 PM)bearcatkarl Wrote:  Time To start packing. We leave in 3 days. Has UC announced if we were red or black? UC tailgates or anything? We have a spot in lot 13 and have a group of 15. Will have skyline dip and grippos chips for out of towners. Happy to buy you a beer if you stop by.

Our color scheme for the game is black and white so I'll be wearing black


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - doss2 - 12-26-2021 05:17 PM

Love listening to Armon Binns on Bearcat Insider.

Excellent Bearcat!


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Lurkercat - 12-26-2021 05:19 PM

(12-26-2021 04:31 PM)bearcatkarl Wrote:  Time To start packing. We leave in 3 days. Has UC announced if we were red or black? UC tailgates or anything? We have a spot in lot 13 and have a group of 15. Will have skyline dip and grippos chips for out of towners. Happy to buy you a beer if you stop by.

Bama is in red. Wear black


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Patmog - 12-26-2021 09:35 PM

Leaving on Wednesday. Stopping in Millington, Tn for the night and then on to a Dallas on Thursday. 6 in our party driving down together, and meeting my daughter and her husband there. We will be in lot 4.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - BearcatMan - 12-26-2021 09:43 PM

Sitting in the Venetian Casino, had 3 separate people run by giving a Go Bearcats!


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Dannyboy - 12-27-2021 03:06 AM

Driving down in one day, my party will be driving in shifts. We’ve had a great time going to all the games. It’s more about the experience than the winning or losing. What a great season.


RE: CFP COTTON BOWL BEARCATS VS ALABAMA- GO BEARCATS, ROLL THE TIDE - Crewdogz - 12-27-2021 11:32 AM