(04-21-2022 08:45 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  A school like Chicago State has no business starting a football program. They had 207 for their home basketball game vs NMSU.

(05-04-2022 05:46 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I don't know if this program survives as an independent, and anytime you have uncertainty, you start bleeding talent, which will be worse than ever in the current transfer environment.

(05-04-2022 11:44 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 05:46 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I don't know if this program survives as an independent, and anytime you have uncertainty, you start bleeding talent, which will be worse than ever in the current transfer environment.

They’ll have to survive and just keep plugging along. Independence in basketball isn’t ideal, but it is far from the impossible task some make it out to be.

You have a lot more games early in the season. When everyone else is in conference play, a few teams will be looking for an opponent in a week they may only have one game. Chicago will be the only independent and can take that game. Look at all the games Carver had. Any coach would rather have a D1 school than a Bible college with 35 students on the schedule. It’s been done before and it will be done again.

(05-05-2022 12:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:44 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 05:46 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I don't know if this program survives as an independent, and anytime you have uncertainty, you start bleeding talent, which will be worse than ever in the current transfer environment.

They’ll have to survive and just keep plugging along. Independence in basketball isn’t ideal, but it is far from the impossible task some make it out to be.

You have a lot more games early in the season. When everyone else is in conference play, a few teams will be looking for an opponent in a week they may only have one game. Chicago will be the only independent and can take that game. Look at all the games Carver had. Any coach would rather have a D1 school than a Bible college with 35 students on the schedule. It’s been done before and it will be done again.

But can't be done forever. They'll need to find a conference somewhere, at any level.

(05-05-2022 02:15 PM)DoubleRSU Wrote:  

(05-05-2022 12:17 PM)CrimsonPhantom Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 11:44 PM)Todor Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 05:46 PM)MICHAELSPAPPY Wrote:  I don't know if this program survives as an independent, and anytime you have uncertainty, you start bleeding talent, which will be worse than ever in the current transfer environment.

They’ll have to survive and just keep plugging along. Independence in basketball isn’t ideal, but it is far from the impossible task some make it out to be.

You have a lot more games early in the season. When everyone else is in conference play, a few teams will be looking for an opponent in a week they may only have one game. Chicago will be the only independent and can take that game. Look at all the games Carver had. Any coach would rather have a D1 school than a Bible college with 35 students on the schedule. It’s been done before and it will be done again.

But can't be done forever. They'll need to find a conference somewhere, at any level.

The main problem for basketball is getting games in January and February. Especially if you’re barely finding out now that you’re going to be independent. Not sure about other sports, since I don’t follow anything other than football and basketball. The instability of leadership further complicates things for Chicago State.

(05-05-2022 09:03 PM)TexasTerror Wrote:  The Southland let some non league teams into conference tournament.

They based tourney seedlings off of Intercollegiate Tennis Association rankings; could be done for Chicago State and outside of league tournament, got to presume CSU can make a five hour circle around campus and play ample D1 foes on the cheap

(05-04-2022 12:23 PM)mjs Wrote:  This post by Matt Brown on another board is quite concerning-

I don't know if it's death watch for the MEAC yet, but boy Chicago State is in a TON of trouble. Back in the fall, the school had *three* different leagues interested in them. Their senior leadership managed to alienate all three...either over money, demanding to not have provisional membership, or football. They also had affiliate deals for individual sports essentially agreed upon, only to be blown up at the last second.

Now one of the smallest staffs in all of D1 has to figure out how to build fall schedules (even though most schools have already finished fall scheduling), AND recruit a new AD. It's a complete disaster.

I wonder what they did to "alienate" the OVC. Must have been pretty bad since it seems like the OVC would really like to shore up their numbers. Unless the OVC feels pretty confident that, despite rumors to the contrary, their 10 current members (after July 1st) will be sticking together for awhile.

(05-06-2022 01:03 PM)solohawks Wrote:  

(05-04-2022 12:23 PM)mjs Wrote:  This post by Matt Brown on another board is quite concerning-

I don't know if it's death watch for the MEAC yet, but boy Chicago State is in a TON of trouble. Back in the fall, the school had *three* different leagues interested in them. Their senior leadership managed to alienate all three...either over money, demanding to not have provisional membership, or football. They also had affiliate deals for individual sports essentially agreed upon, only to be blown up at the last second.

Now one of the smallest staffs in all of D1 has to figure out how to build fall schedules (even though most schools have already finished fall scheduling), AND recruit a new AD. It's a complete disaster.

I wonder what they did to "alienate" the OVC. Must have been pretty bad since it seems like the OVC would really like to shore up their numbers. Unless the OVC feels pretty confident that, despite rumors to the contrary, their 10 current members (after July 1st) will be sticking together for awhile.

Who were the 3 conferences?

OVC - Money?
MEAC - Football?
??? - provisional membership?