(10-05-2021 06:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Schools I want to invite:

App State, Marshall


Schools I am OK with if we invite:

UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM


Schools that I do not get at all and would blanch at:

UTSA, UNT, Buffalo, ODU, La-Tech ... any other MAC or CUSA or SBC school

(10-05-2021 06:32 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:27 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-04-2021 03:13 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  Besides losing Boise State to the Big 12, the MWC could loose San Diego State and Nevada to PAC 12, leaving the MWC needing to add schools. Top Options to target would be Tulsa, UTSA, Rice and Wichita State and perhaps Gonzaga and St. Mary's.

After Southern Miss and Marshall move over to the Belt, that would leave hapless CUSA needing to add tems to join, FAU/FIU, MT/WKU NT/UTEP. They could add Jacksonville State, EKU, Lamar, Sam Houston State, Stephen F. Austin and NMSU to remain as part of G5.

Southern Miss may join the Sun Belt for geographical reasons only, but there's no indication that Marshall will regardless if Keith Gill visits their campus 100 times.

It's been the dream of Sun Belt fans to see the death of Conference USA after 5 schools left for it when Karl Benson became league commissioner--same guy who tried to kill the Sun Belt before the 2005 season started when he was commissioner of the WAC. North Texas and Middle Tennessee were the only two schools that sponsored Sun Belt football in 2004 that left for CUSA in 2012/2013. North Texas turned down the WAC and Middle Tennessee stuck it out in the Sun Belt rather than going to the MAC during the off-season. Sun Belt probably could've gotten a waiver for 2005 with Arkansas State, ULM, UL-Lafayette adding Troy, Florida International and Florida Atlantic in football. FAU and FIU were already in the league in other sports, but without 8 full members the league would've been in jeopardy.

Why are you still harping on this nonsense. The SBC IMPROVED!!!! When the 5 programs left. They were replaced with likeminded university’s. That is why the SBC is stable and CUSA is disgruntled.

You’re continued bashing of the SBC comes off as a bitter divorcée. Grow up, act mature and be respectful.

Yes, the SBC is doing okay, in football only.

Soon to be all sports once CUSA is destroyed.

(10-05-2021 08:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 08:12 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  App. Marshall, UAB, Georgia State.

Yes.

(10-05-2021 09:29 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 08:12 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  App. Marshall, UAB, Georgia State.

Yes.

Based on how quickly the budgets drop after you rule out the MWC, I'm more of the mindset that we should add 1 to get to 9, play a Big 12-style round-robin, and call it a day without diluting too much.

Fine with any 1 of those 4, or maybe North Texas maybe because they shell out more for athletics than any of them.

(10-05-2021 09:53 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Briefly looking over the "Altimore" report, this board seems to be overlooking pretty highly ranked MAC schools.

Miami (OH), NIU and Buffalo.

I don't know how good these guys are. From what I gathered, they predicted UCF, UC, Houston and BYU to the Big 12.

(10-05-2021 09:10 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:32 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:27 AM)All4One Wrote:  Southern Miss may join the Sun Belt for geographical reasons only, but there's no indication that Marshall will regardless if Keith Gill visits their campus 100 times.

It's been the dream of Sun Belt fans to see the death of Conference USA after 5 schools left for it when Karl Benson became league commissioner--same guy who tried to kill the Sun Belt before the 2005 season started when he was commissioner of the WAC. North Texas and Middle Tennessee were the only two schools that sponsored Sun Belt football in 2004 that left for CUSA in 2012/2013. North Texas turned down the WAC and Middle Tennessee stuck it out in the Sun Belt rather than going to the MAC during the off-season. Sun Belt probably could've gotten a waiver for 2005 with Arkansas State, ULM, UL-Lafayette adding Troy, Florida International and Florida Atlantic in football. FAU and FIU were already in the league in other sports, but without 8 full members the league would've been in jeopardy.

Why are you still harping on this nonsense. The SBC IMPROVED!!!! When the 5 programs left. They were replaced with likeminded university’s. That is why the SBC is stable and CUSA is disgruntled.

You’re continued bashing of the SBC comes off as a bitter divorcée. Grow up, act mature and be respectful.

Yes, the SBC is doing okay, in football only.

Soon to be all sports once CUSA is destroyed.

Hahaha! Southern Piss is one of the poorest schools in Division 1-A. You'll fit right in with Louisiana-Monroe and their $15 Million annual budget.

(10-05-2021 06:32 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:27 AM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-04-2021 03:13 PM)ARSTATEFAN1986 Wrote:  Besides losing Boise State to the Big 12, the MWC could loose San Diego State and Nevada to PAC 12, leaving the MWC needing to add schools. Top Options to target would be Tulsa, UTSA, Rice and Wichita State and perhaps Gonzaga and St. Mary's.

After Southern Miss and Marshall move over to the Belt, that would leave hapless CUSA needing to add tems to join, FAU/FIU, MT/WKU NT/UTEP. They could add Jacksonville State, EKU, Lamar, Sam Houston State, Stephen F. Austin and NMSU to remain as part of G5.

Southern Miss may join the Sun Belt for geographical reasons only, but there's no indication that Marshall will regardless if Keith Gill visits their campus 100 times.

It's been the dream of Sun Belt fans to see the death of Conference USA after 5 schools left for it when Karl Benson became league commissioner--same guy who tried to kill the Sun Belt before the 2005 season started when he was commissioner of the WAC. North Texas and Middle Tennessee were the only two schools that sponsored Sun Belt football in 2004 that left for CUSA in 2012/2013. North Texas turned down the WAC and Middle Tennessee stuck it out in the Sun Belt rather than going to the MAC during the off-season. Sun Belt probably could've gotten a waiver for 2005 with Arkansas State, ULM, UL-Lafayette adding Troy, Florida International and Florida Atlantic in football. FAU and FIU were already in the league in other sports, but without 8 full members the league would've been in jeopardy.

Why are you still harping on this nonsense. The SBC IMPROVED!!!! When the 5 programs left. They were replaced with likeminded university’s. That is why the SBC is stable and CUSA is disgruntled.

You’re continued bashing of the SBC comes off as a bitter divorcée. Grow up, act mature and be respectful.

Yes, the SBC is doing okay, in football only.

Soon to be all sports once CUSA is destroyed.

(10-05-2021 07:12 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Schools I want to invite:

App State, Marshall


Schools I am OK with if we invite:

UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM


Schools that I do not get at all and would blanch at:

UTSA, UNT, Buffalo, ODU, La-Tech ... any other MAC or CUSA or SBC school

So you are looking at FB only and not anything else.

(10-06-2021 05:39 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 09:10 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:32 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  Why are you still harping on this nonsense. The SBC IMPROVED!!!! When the 5 programs left. They were replaced with likeminded university’s. That is why the SBC is stable and CUSA is disgruntled.

You’re continued bashing of the SBC comes off as a bitter divorcée. Grow up, act mature and be respectful.

Yes, the SBC is doing okay, in football only.

Soon to be all sports once CUSA is destroyed.

Hahaha! Southern Piss is one of the poorest schools in Division 1-A. You'll fit right in with Louisiana-Monroe and their $15 Million annual budget.

Hahaha! You forgot to add ltur to that little group, as they are only about $7 million ‘less poor’ than those you mention. Not to mention that ruston is much smaller and located in just as much, if not even more, poor area than Monroe and Hattiesburg.

(10-06-2021 05:42 AM)FrankyP Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:32 PM)seaking4steel Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 05:59 PM)All4One Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 04:57 PM)geauxcajuns Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 12:27 AM)All4One Wrote:  Southern Miss may join the Sun Belt for geographical reasons only, but there's no indication that Marshall will regardless if Keith Gill visits their campus 100 times.

It's been the dream of Sun Belt fans to see the death of Conference USA after 5 schools left for it when Karl Benson became league commissioner--same guy who tried to kill the Sun Belt before the 2005 season started when he was commissioner of the WAC. North Texas and Middle Tennessee were the only two schools that sponsored Sun Belt football in 2004 that left for CUSA in 2012/2013. North Texas turned down the WAC and Middle Tennessee stuck it out in the Sun Belt rather than going to the MAC during the off-season. Sun Belt probably could've gotten a waiver for 2005 with Arkansas State, ULM, UL-Lafayette adding Troy, Florida International and Florida Atlantic in football. FAU and FIU were already in the league in other sports, but without 8 full members the league would've been in jeopardy.

Why are you still harping on this nonsense. The SBC IMPROVED!!!! When the 5 programs left. They were replaced with likeminded university’s. That is why the SBC is stable and CUSA is disgruntled.

You’re continued bashing of the SBC comes off as a bitter divorcée. Grow up, act mature and be respectful.

Yes, the SBC is doing okay, in football only.

Soon to be all sports once CUSA is destroyed.

(10-06-2021 12:44 AM)Lurker Above Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 09:53 PM)SMUfan Wrote:  Briefly looking over the "Altimore" report, this board seems to be overlooking pretty highly ranked MAC schools.

Miami (OH), NIU and Buffalo.

I don't know how good these guys are. From what I gathered, they predicted UCF, UC, Houston and BYU to the Big 12.

Correct. My prediction is UAB, Buffalo, Rice and Miami (Ohio). By going after Colorado State and Air Force, the AAC tipped its hand at what they wanted; they want schools with quality academics and athletic potential.

(10-05-2021 07:12 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Schools I want to invite:

App State, Marshall


Schools I am OK with if we invite:

UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM


Schools that I do not get at all and would blanch at:

UTSA, UNT, Buffalo, ODU, La-Tech ... any other MAC or CUSA or SBC school

So you are looking at FB only and not anything else.

(10-06-2021 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:12 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Schools I want to invite:

App State, Marshall


Schools I am OK with if we invite:

UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM


Schools that I do not get at all and would blanch at:

UTSA, UNT, Buffalo, ODU, La-Tech ... any other MAC or CUSA or SBC school

So you are looking at FB only and not anything else.

Kind of, IMO that's the main thing to look at, plus, I am a believer in geography, and want the conference to go east.

A "holistic" approach is something you have to earn, be able to afford. Like the B1G, they are so rich and powerful they can afford to have 10 boxes you have to check in addition to great football and hoops, like AAU membership, research budget, US News rank, Diversity initiatives, Green Energy commitments, and the like.

The AAC? We just need to take schools that will make us a better football conference, IMO.

(10-05-2021 09:29 PM)CoastalJuan Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 08:49 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-02-2021 08:12 AM)seaking4steel Wrote:  App. Marshall, UAB, Georgia State.

Yes.

Based on how quickly the budgets drop after you rule out the MWC, I'm more of the mindset that we should add 1 to get to 9, play a Big 12-style round-robin, and call it a day without diluting too much.

Fine with any 1 of those 4, or maybe North Texas maybe because they shell out more for athletics than any of them.

(10-06-2021 08:12 AM)DavidSt Wrote:  

(10-06-2021 07:47 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 07:12 PM)whittx Wrote:  

(10-05-2021 06:40 PM)quo vadis Wrote:  Schools I want to invite:

App State, Marshall


Schools I am OK with if we invite:

UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM


Schools that I do not get at all and would blanch at:

UTSA, UNT, Buffalo, ODU, La-Tech ... any other MAC or CUSA or SBC school

So you are looking at FB only and not anything else.

Kind of, IMO that's the main thing to look at, plus, I am a believer in geography, and want the conference to go east.

A "holistic" approach is something you have to earn, be able to afford. Like the B1G, they are so rich and powerful they can afford to have 10 boxes you have to check in addition to great football and hoops, like AAU membership, research budget, US News rank, Diversity initiatives, Green Energy commitments, and the like.

The AAC? We just need to take schools that will make us a better football conference, IMO.

These schools of UAB, Georgia State, Rice, ULL, FAU, USA, USM will make your conference weaker in football.