(10-26-2021 01:22 PM)schnautza Wrote:  

(09-29-2021 05:09 PM)solohawks Wrote:  What about Missouri S&T?

Sorry I'm late to the conversation, finally got an account approved. Southern Indiana fan here, wanting to get the scoop on all things related to the possible D1 transitioning.

I'm going back and reading thru this thread and this comment made me laugh out loud.

S&T is, at best, bottom 25% of the GLVC in most sports. In men's basketball, it's pretty much the game you can let all the starters rest up the whole game. Over the last 4 seasons, they've won an average of 4.5 games per season...make that 3.25 if you exclude wins against D3 and NAIA teams. They should not be considered in any D1 transition talks.

(10-26-2021 01:43 PM)DavidSt Wrote:  I think UIndy should be in the running for OVC as well. Does add a D2 Indiana football member as well.

(10-01-2021 06:57 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-01-2021 12:58 AM)Todor Wrote:  If the OVC needed members and had no other immediate takers, Chicago State needs to demand full membership, non conditional. Otherwise, I'd tell the OVC to kick rocks and either remain independent or pursue MEAC membership if that's an option.

Chicago State is why the WAC is here today. They saved it. They could have turned it down and left the WAC without enough members to exist. And in many ways, it would have made sense for them to say no. But instead, they joined and got kicked n in the teeth as soon we didn't need them and they had no recourse.

Hopefully they don't allow that to happen again. If you have a conference (who would normally hold all of the power over you) over a barrel, its time to stand up for your own interests and demand some equity.

I like CSU's chances at an OVC invite. Eastern and SIUE schedule Chicago State in a number of sports and would probably prefer them and a Chicago presence for the conference over a far flung school in the southeast or elsewhere.

That's what I've been thinking

Adding WIU and Chicago St creates a geographically tight OVC West that works well for all the schools that would be involved

OVC West - Chicago St, WIU, EIU, SIU-E, SE Missouri St,

The Eastern bloc adds Southern Indiana
OVC East - Morehead St, TN Tech, TN St, UT Martin, Southern IN

That's 6 for football and 10 overall

They have room to grow and get that 6th soccer school as well.

They really need to get soccer solidified at the OVC since football is so wobbly

(10-27-2021 05:23 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  Would anyone in the OVC jump to the ASUN if the ASUN found themselves down one or more schools?

Would the SoCon take anyone if they lose Chattanooga to C-USA?

(10-27-2021 04:43 AM)Todor Wrote:  The OVC has kind of been lost in the shuffle the last few weeks. CUSA looking for teams isn't really much of a plus for them as they adjoin/overlap territory. OVC may be FCS, but when talk is heavy in FCS move ups to help fill in CUSA, it might push back any OVC announcement until after things are settled with others. Could create an opening for someone needing a spot in the meantime.

(10-26-2021 10:48 PM)Illiniguy Wrote:  I gotta say INDY would be better off in the OVC than staying in d2 as for enrollment they could grow. Hell if USI can go D1 and be in a city that’s smaller then Indianapolis then why not

(10-27-2021 08:27 AM)solohawks Wrote:  

(10-27-2021 04:43 AM)Todor Wrote:  The OVC has kind of been lost in the shuffle the last few weeks. CUSA looking for teams isn't really much of a plus for them as they adjoin/overlap territory. OVC may be FCS, but when talk is heavy in FCS move ups to help fill in CUSA, it might push back any OVC announcement until after things are settled with others. Could create an opening for someone needing a spot in the meantime.

Kinda surprising they haven't landed Western Illinois yet.

Of course, taking Western Illinois may clear out the possible football roadblock preventing Murray State from joining the MVC

(10-27-2021 08:48 AM)EKUSteve Wrote:  Just for context:
UINDY is a private school. It is also pretty well built up around. The capacity of their football stadium is 5,500.
USI is a public school. It has plenty of land to continue to grow.

(10-27-2021 08:48 AM)EKUSteve Wrote:  

(10-26-2021 10:48 PM)Illiniguy Wrote:  I gotta say INDY would be better off in the OVC than staying in d2 as for enrollment they could grow. Hell if USI can go D1 and be in a city that’s smaller then Indianapolis then why not

Just for context:
UINDY is a private school. It is also pretty well built up around. The capacity of their football stadium is 5,500.
USI is a public school. It has plenty of land to continue to grow.

(10-27-2021 12:16 PM)OhioBoilermaker Wrote:  Being landlocked isn't a huge deal. St. Peter's is D1 with only 30 acres. I'm sure others in the Northeast are in a similar situation.

(11-02-2021 07:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  With CUSA apparently taking Jax state and maybe more, is there an opening for the OVC to get their schools back?

ASun Football is looking to be at 5

(11-03-2021 06:02 AM)chargeradio Wrote:  

(11-02-2021 07:39 AM)solohawks Wrote:  With CUSA apparently taking Jax state and maybe more, is there an opening for the OVC to get their schools back?

ASun Football is looking to be at 5

I guess it's possible Austin Peay calls off their move. JSU is obviously gone. EKU probably doesn't go back unless if the ASUN loses Central Arkansas. The OVC could add North Alabama as a de facto replacement for JSU.

The only way I see it even being possible is if Kennesaw State bolts, and all the Southland schools decline. KSU would have to expand their stadium to move to FBS; not sure the SoCon would be interested in KSU, but they are a FCS public school in the footprint.

If all the football schools bolt, the ASun would be in trouble as they would only have six schools total. If UNA and Kennesaw stay their football could still play in the Big South, and the conference would have eight schools overall.